The market is a controlled dynamic system. - page 177

 
yosuf:
I am not ruling time out, but I am assuming that time is not the major factor in the market. I understand that without time, there is no process, as Newton said, but any process is set in motion by an external force. without whose awareness and estimation time is negligible!


Time is fundamental. Time is primary. Any force, external or internal, outside of time is zero.

Since you have remembered Newton, you can visualise it as follows:

if you throw time out of the world, then acceleration, and therefore force, is zero.

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Your statement: "time is negligible!" is puzzling, to say the least.

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zy

Let me remind you that force is a function of time, not the other way around.

Time is independent. Force is a function of time.

Time flows in its measured course -- regardless of whether there are forces present or absent.

 
Basically, what is time? A series of events from the past to the future. Eliminating time means stopping this sequence of events. Nothing more, nothing less. Such attempts to eliminate time are absurd!
 

Somewhere at the beginning (https://forum.mql4.com/ru/38834/page198) and onwards for 20-30 pages it was already about time.

We cannot talk about eliminating time as a factor at all, but we can probably talk about bringing processes of the same type (or type?) and with different durations to a common denominator.

There are such notions as 'dimensionless time', 'dimensionless temperature', 'dimensionless coordinate' etc.

We are speaking of rationing by time.

Time is by no means the only factor on which the course of a phenomenon can depend in its pure form, but rather a scale of reference for observation.

 
sergeyas:


We cannot talk about eliminating time as a factor at all

Can't

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but to reduce processes of the same type (or kind ?) and with different durations to a common denominator perhaps

We can

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Time is far from being the only factor on which the course of a phenomenon may depend in its pure form.

Of course, any phenomenon depends on many factors.

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but only a scale of reference.

This view of time is an oversimplified view.

 
avtomat:

This view of time is an oversimplified view.

Describe (for the sake of education) one that is "not oversimplified" or send it somewhere (preferably via a link) ;)
 
sergeyas:
Describe (for the sake of enlightenment) one that is "not excessive" or send it somewhere (preferably via a link) ;)


Recall the famous Arrow of Time. The directionality of time does not fit within the concept of scale.

Think also of timer control units, where events are time intervals - this is NOT "just a reference scale".

And, of course, we must remember the fundamental unified space-time.

 
avtomat:


Recall the famous Arrow of Time. The directionality of time does not fit within the concept of scale.

Think also of timer control units, where events are time intervals - this is NOT "just a reference scale".

And of course, we must remember the fundamental unified space-time.

Timescales as events is perhaps a more relevant and understandable explanation (from a practical point of view).

I mean possible influence on a choice of a sampling method. Though here also it is possible to try to introduce normalization on length of a time interval and again we will come to dimensionless time...

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The other two points are too far off the ground.

 
avtomat:
Generally speaking, what is time? A succession of events, directed from the past to the future. To eliminate time means to stop this sequence of events. Neither more nor less. Such attempts to eliminate time are absurd!

Replace the word time with the phrase system evolution. Then the claims of those who say that there is no time in the market, only ticks will become clear.

What is tics but the quantisation of the evolution of a system. Simply, time is bound to another system, the system of the material world, while ticks quantize the information system of the market, which lives according to other laws, the laws of human psychology.

 
Urain:

Replace the word time with the phrase system evolution. Then you will understand the claims of the side which says that there is no time in the market, only ticks.

What are ticks if not quantization of the system evolution. It is just that time is attached to another system, the system of the material world, while ticks quantize the information system of the market, which lives according to other laws, the laws of human psychology.



This substitution is the normalization by time).

Only in the "denominator" there is a complex "function of flow" of ticks.

And time in such a scale will flow unevenly.




 

Time is an abstraction for mathematics. You can call it whatever you like. There are lots of different processes in which time is not involved. But you can draw a nice graph of interactions on two or more coordinates.

For example, the dependence of density on pressure or temperature. Price versus air temperature or atmospheric pressure or humidity or precipitation in millimetres.