How to make giant profits on forex? - page 8

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Реter Konow:
I wish I had known before that I existed for you - I would have experienced the pain of an attitude change! ))))

The only realluxury isthe luxury of human contact.From Land of Men (1939) by French writer and military pilot Antoine de Saint-Exupery (1900-1944).

If you continue in this vein, there won't be a single person left on this forum who wants to communicate with you.

 
khorosh:

The only realluxury isthe luxury of human contact.From Land of Men (1939) by French writer and military pilot Antoine de Saint-Exupery (1900-1944).

If you continue in this vein, there won't be a single person left on this forum who wants to communicate with you.

The value of understanding is greater than the personal relationships of strangers. I don't much care how you relate to me, but much more important is the message you convey on the topic under discussion.
And your message is bad - trade, lose, learn. My message is learn, listen to wise people and decide if it's worth it. Sometimes, it's better not to even try.

Also, you do not qualitatively distinguish between kitchens, nast.forex, stock exchange... "trade, learn". This shows ignorance on the subject.

1. No professional would advise kitchen forex.
2. Few professionals will advise futures.
3. a true professional will only point to the stock market and portfolio investments.
 
Реter Konow:
The value of understanding the matter is greater than the personal relationships of strangers. I don't much care how you relate to me, and much more important is the message you convey on the topic under discussion.
And your message is bad - trade, lose, learn. My message is - learn, listen to wise people and decide whether it's worth it. Sometimes, it's better not to even try.

Also, you do not qualitatively distinguish between kitchens, nast.forex, stock exchange... "trade, learn". This shows ignorance on the subject.

1. No professional would advise kitchen forex.
2. Few professionals will advise futures.
3. A real professional will only point to the stock exchange and portfolio investments.

You are welcome to invest, if you have a lot of money. This is not a forum for investors, but for people who automate trading. Advisors are not necessary for investing, like in any long-term trading. Advisors are needed when there are a lot of short-term transactions in order to maximize profit with a relatively small initial deposit. So it is not clear what you are doing here. Good riddance to the investors forum).

 
Реter Konow:
George, it seems that the trading mechanics, as well as market reality in general, have remained a cosmic ether for you.)))

Deals are made by themselves and buyers and sellers do not converge and so, everyone can win independently of the others...))


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Lykos squeeze! :-)
 
You guys are getting into a heated discussion about Martin. It reminds me of a Georgian in our brigade who used to do roofing - any topic (even a nuclear apocalypse with the destruction of all things in the universe) ended up with women.
So, a little bit about Martin... It's worth recalling that his original idea was to win the original bet at a 1:1 payoff. This is classic Martin - 1-2-4-8-... Along with the classic Martin, a slow Martin was developed - 1-1-2-4-8-... which prevents you from losing your original bet. So was the original fast Martin - 1-3-7-15-31-... - ensures that the original bet is won for every bet. Everything else is derivative of them, as is reverse Martin.
As for the use of Martin in casinos. The casino has a maximum wager limit. That is, if you play with Martin, you can increase your bet 5-7 times occasionally 9-11, without bringing in a "second" hand, with each successive increase being one "helper". In this case, the size of the loss adds up all bets, and the winnings are incommensurably small with him, so casinos do not particularly struggle with Martin. Also, on roulette (not taking into account zeros), there's a 50% chance of winning, as well as a 50% chance of losing, when playing for even odds. (With zero, there's a 48.65% chance of winning.) For all that, the probability of winning does not increase with a series of failures. In my memory, while working in a casino, one number fell out 7 times in a row, then another number fell out, and then another 2 times in a row the previous number fell out. The Guinness Book of World Records lists numbers of the same colour on the same roulette table for over 30 hours.
In Forex (let me use this name to refer to all markets) our losses do not only depend on our lot, which for some reason many people think of Martin. Our loss depends on the money we lose (lot*PPP). Thus, Martin has undergone a lot of modifications in Forex, where traders vary not only by lot, but also by points, wishing to win back the lost money for previous trades and go straight to profit. If he varies only by lot and not by pips, Martin will quickly lose his deposit because in this situation, the trader does not try to analyze the market and treats Forex like a casino, where the chance of winning direction is always 50% and the loss is a sum of previous bets. But the chance that the price will pass the required number of points is different, so the Martin, which everybody is used to talking about, is different in Forex, and everybody sees it in his own way. That's why many people don't understand why they can't be understood when they explain that they can win in Forex with Martin. They just can't explain that not only do they vary the lot, but they also calculate the expected PPs, upon reaching which the money is already pouring into the account in half.
On the principle of playing without market analysis I can tell you about my practice of playing on an infinite average. According to the "idea" the price tends to the infinite average. Therefore, I opened towards the infinite average. According to the second "idea" - each candle has a shadow - therefore I set 17 points as the target. With a 50 pips pullback I decreased the target to 13 pips, and i.e. calculated for 5 Knees. Without loss - the third "idea" - the trader risks the entire deposit. All trading was strictly in manual mode. So, let me tell you guys: in one year and eight months of playing (there's no other way to describe it) with daily market entries there was no loss. I've really swung the stock, taken it out and... one mistake.
 
Олег avtomat:

For Zhora it's dust ;)

Where does that come from?

On the contrary, I seem to always say that there is no point here - I have no such capital...

 
Maxim Kuznetsov:

what to count in what?

what is the GENERAL VARIABILITY? are you putting what you can't put into probability - spreads, commissions, differences...
or are you unaware (maybe in a hurry) calling it something else, which has nothing to do with probabilities?

I'm so sick of the inventors of terms and the mechanics of mixing the sour with the soft...

Call it what you like.

It's about how much of a bet you win on average per trade. You open 100 trades, pay 90 bets, win 10 bets - that's a generalized probability of 0.1. You open 100 trades, pay 50 bets and win 50 bets - that's a generalized probability of 0.5. Opened 100 trades, won 90 bets, paid 10 bets - here is the generalized probability 0.9

"Generalised" I mean in the sense that the TP-SL difference, spreads, commissions, and lot differences are all taken into account here.

Call it something else, we'll use your definition... The essence will not change. Taking this parameter as a basis - martingale is very easy to calculate. But it turns out such a ratio of winnings to capital that there is no point in such trading.

 
Vladimir Baskakov:
Zhora, Zhora, don't be so ardent, it's clear that you're an amateur, stay in the league, you're the guru there

You're the only one who's a pro.

 
Serqey Nikitin:

"Giant profits" can only be made by trading on large charts, such as the daily chart or higher...


Prerequisites for such trading:

1. Trust in your strategy

2. the absence of a stop-loss

3. Automating the trading process (EA).


Position opening - when the direction of ALL indicators is the same.

Closing a position - when the fastest indicator turns in the current situation ...

Here the MOST important thing is to set a goal...

If your goal is "a HUGE profit" rather than ordinary profit, you can forget about the stop, because nobody cancelled the saw-toothed law of price movement...

And the risks naturally increase VERY HIGHLY... And here the first place comes to the point - trust in your trading system. Well, without automation (clause 3) is not enough - no health is not enough to watch such pullbacks...

 
khorosh:

You are welcome to invest, if you have a lot of money. But this is not a forum for investors, but for people involved in automated trading. Advisors are not needed for investing, just as they are for any kind of long-term trading. Advisors are needed when there are a lot of short-term transactions in order to maximize profit with a relatively small initial deposit. So it is not clear what you are doing here. Good riddance to the investors forum).

What a narrow understanding.

1. In this forum are taught different strategies. Investment ones too.

2. Robots can be used as tools to automate routine investor actions - for example, to analyse changes in market parameters.

3. This is an excuse for uneducated traders that do not understand the trading mechanics and live under the illusion of a grail. It is strange to hear support for ignorance from a "learned" person).

4. If you cite a lack of money as an excuse for hopeless and illiterate trading, it will not make more of them anyway. (((
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