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nowi:
That's my advice to you perepel: if you distrust forex, that they say it's all "kitchen" no problem try your hand at the stock exchanges, maybe there cheh will break even.
Well, if there is no luck, you can play casino or buy lottery tickets.
 

Alex_Bondar 2013.05.29 15:12 #

What's that picture? Are you making fun of me? It could be taken as a personal insult. For such creativity is eternal ban.

revers45 2013.05.29 16:16 #

Can you tell me on which exchange trigonometric instruments are already traded?

I have nothing to do with it, it is from the net animated gif, there about how profitability is formed in the pictures, just for dummies like me, no need to ban, I apologize if it offended someone. The sine wave apparently as an elementary example to clearly demonstrate the growth of the amount, and then how this amount melts when you subtract the various nasties, there at the end of the normal graph and its growth in profits. But it is not so evident from which steps the profit is summed up. I have attached it here as an illustration to the question of the components from which all profits are collected.


nowi 2013.05.29 19:46 #
For example, if you don't feel confident about forex, you might try your hand at the exchanges.

The real-time quotes... You won't find a ball like that anywhere else.

I'm getting to the bottom of it. I would like to dot all the I's and cross all the t's in the order, but I guess I have got it wrong again((.

anonymous 2013.05.29 19:56 #

If you just trade volatility to return to the mean, the ratio will not be very good. And shorting volatility is dangerous))

Sorry, I don't understand you yet. "Volatility is a measure of market activity, I can't even imagine how to trade it, I think it's too early for me. I am afraid to hear it.

I should buy a tablet or a scanner to draw and post pictures, because few people seem to understand the essence of my questions. To draw will become clear immediately.

A100 2013.05.29 21:15 #

Well, if there is no luck - you can still play casinos and buy lottery tickets.

I do not rely on luck, but on regularities. If compared to a casino I want to learn "to count cards" and not be visible to their means of finding such people, and if compared with the lottery I want to know the algorithm for calculating the winning number or influence manipulated results.

So far, with very basic things I understand. Not yet had time to delve into the artificial intelligence, as advised above. But all in good time. I'm a persistent and consistent guy. I may not be a genius, but I'm not an idiot either. I think it'll all work out. With God's help.

 
revers45:

Can you tell me which exchange already trades trigonometric instruments?

Buying all sines) Who wants tangents?
 
Although rounded formulas clearly entice taking the same Spearman, logarithms, parabolas) There is a lack of explicit mathematical indicators, I would love to know what the sine of the price is now and because these combinations clearly describe the price, example Fibo, Gann theory)
 
perepel:

I'm sorry, I don't understand you yet. "Volatility" is a measure of market activity, I can't even imagine how to trade it by itself, I think it's too early for me. I am afraid to hear it.

Volatility became a separate class of instruments long time ago.

The simplest way to trade is with options (their prices are sometimes even expressed in points of volatility). A more advanced one is with derivatives on volatility indices (futures, options, ETFs) or variance swaps.

The only problem is that the markets for these instruments are also very efficient, or not available to ordinary traders.

Next. Volatility is the second moment of the distribution of returns of some simple underlying asset (stock, index, etc). One can trade moments of higher orders - the slope and the excess, also with the help of options. Some time ago, the CBOE bevel index appeared:http://www.cboe.com/micro/skew/introduction.aspx and they are about to invent a tradable instrument for it.

There is also the volatility index VVIX(http://www.cboe.com/micro/VVIX/). I haven't seen traded instruments on it yet, but the mean reversion is more expressed there by eye.

Beginners should not go into all these classes of instruments))

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perepel......If they say that the commission is 10$ for a "full circle", am I right to understand that this is the same as adding 10 more points to the spread, that is, if the spread is 20 points and the commission is another 10, then you need in each position to raise more than 30 points to be without loss?

Don't get bogged down, find a brokerage company with one spread and no commission; you may also have a "swap" (rollover).

for the question, if 1p=1$ then yes to the spread = 20S + 10S commission for the position = 30 which you need to pay off to get to 0.

If you've got a good understanding of this, then you need to ask yourself which one is the best and which one is the most important.

 

perepel:

Do you have to put more than 30 pips in each position to be lossless?

Change your broker. You should look at your broker's price. Normal commission is 4-7 pips per lot, spread depends on liquidity at the moment, it may be 0 or 50 depending on news and weekend transitions, you have to take it into account in TS, the average is 5-10. In other words, the overall spread is 2 times less than the 30 you mentioned and this is out of space.

I advise to get used to ECN/STP, although all the same, both MM and ECN are simulations, but if you want to train in conditions close to the battle you need to choose a more relevant simulator.

But note that in the MT-tester you won't be able to adequately take into account the nuances of real costs, so the results may be very different and therefore wrong decisions may be made.

vspexp:

Don't bother at once, find a brokerage company with one spread and no commission, and there's also a "swap" (rollover to the next day).

Why should you make a habit of it? You need to develop habits that you can use later on. The constant spread is stupid and a sign of manipulation, there is no point in getting used to it.
 

The only commission I know of is at admiral, most dts have a spread, so what's the sado-maso here?

 

zfs:
Хотя округлые формулы явно заманывают взять того же Спирмена, логарифмы, параболы) Не хватает явных математических индикаторов, я бы с удовольствием бы знал чему сейчас равен синус цены и ведь данные сочетания явно описывают цену, пример тому Фибо, теории Ганна)

Who's stopping it ? There are quite a few indicators in CodeBase that use mathematical processing...

 
links in the studio)