There is no point in using indicators if they lag behind. - page 8

 
Avals:
What do you think the indicator is? Can you give me a definition?
Indicator (from Latin indico - to reflect) - a device for visual (visual) display of information. It is used to display measurement data and calculations.
 
avtomat:
Indicator (from Latin indico - reflect) - a device for visual (visual) display of information. It is designed to display measurement data and calculations.
Accordingly, if calculations are prognostic, an indicator will show a prognosis. Whether it is correct or not is irrelevant in the context of this discussion.
 
artmedia70:
Accordingly, if the calculations are predictive, then the indicator will show the forecast. Whether it is correct or not is irrelevant in the context of this discussion.
Of course it does.
 
avtomat:
Indicator (from Latin indico - reflect) - a device for visual (visual) display of information. It is designed to display measurement and calculation data.

If you don't display MA on the screen, but use it in your EA code, then it automatically ceases to be an indicator?)

 
Avals:

If you don't display the MA on the screen, but use it in the EA code, then it automatically ceases to be an indicator?))

The EA has no eyes. It does not "see" any indicator. Don't judge with human abstractions.
 
artmedia70:
The advisor has no eyes. It does not 'see' a single indicator. Don't judge with human abstractions.
Did I write that the Expert Advisor "sees" an indicator?) (programmer by training)
 
Avals:
did I write that the EA "sees" the indicator?) (programmer by training)
Then why did you say about embedding the calculation part of the indicator into the Expert Advisor? To confuse it? It will be an indicator inside the Expert Advisor. The indicator inside the Expert Advisor. But the indicator will be in the form of a function. It doesn't matter where the EA will receive the indicator data - from external EA, a file, something else, from its own function that repeats the calculation of the indicator. The essence is the same - it is the indicator, the data from which is used by the Expert Advisor.
 
artmedia70:
Then why did they say to embed the calculation part of the indicator in the EA? Is it confusing? It will be an indicator inside the Expert Advisor as well. It will be an indicator inside the Expert Advisor. But the indicator will be in the form of a function. It doesn't matter where the EA will receive the indicator data - from external EA, a file, something else, from its own function that repeats the calculation of the indicator. The essence is the same - it is the indicator whose data is used by the Expert Advisor.
so look at the definition of an automaton I wrote this post on. He wrote that an indicator is a display of information, and now you write that if you don't display it, it is still an indicator)) So the key is not that it displays, the definition is wrong ;)
 
Avals:
So look at the definition of an automaton I wrote this post on. He wrote that an indicator is a display of information, and now you write that if you don't display it, it is still an indicator)) So the key is not that it displays, the definition is wrong ;)

So how does this definition contradict the fact that these are all indicators https://www.mql5.com/ru/code/mt5/indicators

There are many of them and they are different. But they are all indicators. Among them, there are some that display forecasts or use forecasting algorithms in their own right.... but regardless of that, they were indicators and they still are.

MQL5 Code Base: Индикаторы
MQL5 Code Base: Индикаторы
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Технические индикаторы для MetaTrader 5 с исходными кодами
 
Avals:

If you don't display the MA on the screen, but use it in the EA code, then it automatically ceases to be an indicator?))

The indicator remains an indicator (the MAHA in this case). The Expert Advisor uses the results of calculations performed by the indicator. And you don't have to display the МАшашаka on the screen at all for the Expert Advisor to be able to use the calculated values of the indicator.

By the way, the term "Expert Advisor" is not a good one.