Interesting and Humour - page 528

 
Urain:

Man, are you guys losing your minds?

A nuclear reactor is a machine without brakes, getting power from a self-accelerating reaction is always potentially dangerous, it takes decades to learn how to operate reactors, and it's still dangerous.

Nuclear waste cannot be disposed of, it can only be hidden.

And you want to crush control in the form of mass minisystems.

The more massive the more difficult it is to ensure security, both technological and terrorist.

Hmm... I didn't know it was that complicated. It's so clear-cut, the yellow man was flying.)
 
sumkin75:
Hmm... I didn't know it was that complicated. The yellow man was flying pretty clear.)
Well, where was he flying? Where did you see him? )))
 
sumkin75:
Hmm... I didn't know it was that complicated. It's so clear-cut, the yellow man was flying:)
The water-energy_reactor
 
What's my point? All these air-powered technologies and "clean" electric power are just about nothing. They can only partially reduce dependence on major energy sources, of which there are not many. Right now the main ones are thermal power plants, hydroelectric power plants and nuclear power plants. TPP is not technologically far removed from the days when cavemen warmed themselves by fire, and hydroelectric power is horrendously damaging to the environment and limited in its application. Obviously, there will be no place for these archaic sources of energy in the future. That leaves only the nuclear power plant, and in the not too distant future pure thermonuclear based on it. The other exotics like solar, wind and wave energy should be considered as a tool to achieve energy efficiency, but not as the main energy source.
 
C-4:
This leaves only the nuclear power plant and, in the not too distant future, pure thermonuclear power. The rest of the exotics like solar, wind and wave energy should be considered as a tool for energy efficiency, but not as the main energy source.
And again not. The future lies in solar panels and solar power plants.
 
C-4:
What's my point? All these air-powered technologies and "clean" electric power are just about nothing. They can only partially reduce dependence on major energy sources, of which there are not many. Right now the main ones are thermal power plants, hydroelectric power plants and nuclear power plants. TPP is not technologically far removed from the days when cavemen warmed themselves by fire, and hydroelectric power plants are horrendously damaging to the environment and limited in their application. Obviously, there will be no place for these archaic sources of energy in the future. That leaves only the nuclear power plant, and in the not too distant future pure thermonuclear based on it. The rest of exotics like solar, wind and wave energy should be considered as a tool for energy efficiency, but not as a primary energy source.

Here I agree, even the unmentioned solar cells, if widely distributed, would take the sun away from nature and lead to starvation.

But the problem is that the industrial development of the atom has stopped, there is no new Einstein, all the development work is going on around the clock, and we need a real thermonuclear breakthrough.

We need a fundamentally new reaction.

  • The decay products of which would be non-radioactive, and easily disposed of.
  • The reaction is easily manageable.
  • The materials for the reaction are readily available.
 
TheXpert:
And again it is not. The future belongs to solar panels and solar power plants.

The largest solar plant in Spain, covering 100 hectares, generates 20 megawatts.

And one VVER-1000 unit generates 3,000 megawatts, as they say, feel the difference.

ZS wrote from memory, corrected to 20 meg. But anyway, this plant closes off the sun to grass, so we have less oxygen.

It is not noticeable now, but when they start covering the ocean with solar power plants, it will be a disaster. And greed has no brakes.

 
Urain:

The largest solar plant in Spain, covering 100 hectares, generates 20 megawatts.

And one VVER-1000 unit generates 3,000 megawatts, as they say, feel the difference.

Here (wikipedia) is something completely different as to where the biggest station is. )) Crimea (100 MW). link
 
Urain:

Man, are you guys losing your minds?

A nuclear reactor is a machine without brakes, getting power from a self-accelerating reaction is always potentially dangerous, it takes decades to learn how to operate reactors, and it's still dangerous.

Nuclear waste cannot be disposed of, it can only be hidden.

And you want to crush control in the form of mass minisystems.

The more massive the more difficult it is to ensure safety, both technological and terrorist.

Waste can be disposed of. Take a fast neutron reactor, for example. It is essentially fuelled by spent fuel from classic nuclear power plants. After that, the fuel is transformed into isotopes of conventional chemical elements, which are safely sealed in glass cubes and buried. The background from such "waste" is not much higher than from a granite embankment on the river Neva.

The terrorist threat is too exaggerated too. If terrorists blow up, say, the Sayano-Sushenskaya hydroelectric power plant, the consequences will be monstrous. And all this without any nuclear technology. However no one has exploded anything like that yet. If a mobile NPP explodes, at most, there will be minor contamination within a limited radius of a couple of kilometres.

Ships and nuclear submarines have had nuclear reactors for a long time. And the people there are military officers, not nuclear physicists with 20 years of apprenticeship. This does not prevent them from using nuclear energy. The nuclear reactor in such solutions is a closed-type device, which is not much more difficult to use than a home microwave oven.