My experience as well. 2 years to become "technically" proficient, another year to begin to overcome the the discipline hurdles. A total of 4 years to be profitable and confident in all market conditions.
Really, not unlike any higher education. A year in the dark. A second year of some slight enlightenment. A third year of growing understanding. A fourth year of getting it together.
And all the time, tuition and expenses are being paid.
I'm wondering here if my experience is common that trading doesn't really become consistently profitable until it becomes almost instinctive. And that doesn't happen overnight.
Whatever setups one uses, it really comes down to price action and 'feeling' when to move in, and when to move out.
Whether shooting hoops, hitting golf balls, or trading, to become a professional (self supporting) one has to put in the thousands of hours of doing it until it becomes second nature.
Not everyone is cut out to be a trader, many just do not have the psychological make up for it, and many, I would even say most do not have the financial make up for it.
Mostly, though new traders weed themselves out of the market, by being ill-prepared, ill-informed and ill-equipped. Sort of like a surgeon showing up in the operating room, figuring he would just try a surgery or 2, before he decides if he really wants to be a surgeon.
For some reason traders do this all the time, I am not sure why, perhaps because access to trading accounts and margin is easy. Many who 'give it a try' with zero knowledge last only a few months, blow their account and never return.
The statistics in the industry are very clear on this.
By the time a wannabe trader figures out it's more complicated than that, he is now operating from a financial and psychological perspective of failure.
I personally know many traders who are successful some who earn a fair living equivalent to other professionals, and some others who earn many times that in a single year.
Last years bonuses for traders at wall street firms set all time records.
Like any business, like any industry and any profession, there will always those who succeed and those who don't.
What separates the two? (a hint, it's the same for any profession)
Hard work, A positive attitude, Perseverance, Time and Discipline
Trading is Evolution not Revolution.
It is not a get rich quick lottery, it is not a game
Many go to Med school, Biz School, Law School and never graduate, they can't cut it. Does that mean that there are no successful Doctors, Businessmen or lawyers in the world?
Not everyone is cut out for every profession, that's just how it is.
Traders do have 1 clear disadvantage, they are allowed (as long as they have $2,000 to open an account) to try their hand at it, it seems to be the ONLY profession where the proper education comes after instead of prior to execution
Fives you bring up another very good point, which is that there must be a fit, between the Trader and the Style of trading.
Many traders see others having success with a style and yet they are not able to.
Your psychology, risk tolerance etc.. all come into play in determining if a style is right for you.
I know JP is a fine trader I have seen him trade. I too use Market Profile but trade a vastly different way than JP does.
And I know I could not trade his way.
My personality requires that I take more trades in a day and hold them for shorter periods of time. This is what works for me.
There is no question that it takes time to discover your "Trading Personality" and then find the style that fits best with it.
So the question is, will a trader still be around financialy, after trying a few styles that may not be right for him.
I think traders need to do more research, and ask the right questions before taking on a style
Such as how many trades per day, do you ever hold overnight positions, how long is the average trade held, what type of stops are used, do you scale in and out of positions etc.....
And next, paper or sim trade that style for a while to see how it feels.
I know that even on a sim trade I could not hold a trade all day, just not my style
こんにちは、Gramskiです。
EJのインディケータを使用していますが、あなたのようなチャートを再現することができません。ご教示いただけないでしょうか？ ありがとうございます.........。
ナイスなインジケーター
インジケーターとセッティングのテンプレートはどのように入手できますか？
ここに他のフォーラムからの良い投稿があります。それはあなた方すべての意欲的なトレーダーと共有するのが良いでしょう。
お楽しみください。
fxcruiser
My experience as well. 2 years to become "technically" proficient, another year to begin to overcome the the discipline hurdles. A total of 4 years to be profitable and confident in all market conditions.
Really, not unlike any higher education. A year in the dark. A second year of some slight enlightenment. A third year of growing understanding. A fourth year of getting it together.
And all the time, tuition and expenses are being paid.
I'm wondering here if my experience is common that trading doesn't really become consistently profitable until it becomes almost instinctive. And that doesn't happen overnight.
Whatever setups one uses, it really comes down to price action and 'feeling' when to move in, and when to move out.
Whether shooting hoops, hitting golf balls, or trading, to become a professional (self supporting) one has to put in the thousands of hours of doing it until it becomes second nature.これは私のMTFテンプレートの例で、EJのZCRESTメソッドに少しひねりを加えたものです...LSMA/Zigzagなど。どんな状況でも非常に明確で正確な（そして遅くない！）エントリー/イグジット・シグナルを提供してくれることが分かった。
もしピカソが為替トレーダーになって いたら......。
冗談だよ、兄弟。いいチャートだね。これだけのものを維持するには、相当な腕前が必要だ。最近見かけなくなったね。早くトレーディングルームに立ち寄ってほしいな。寂しくなるよ。
そうですね、EJさん、あなたの最後の投稿に同意します。
そして、学業を終えた後は、底辺からスタートしなければならず、頂点に達するには（もし到達できたとしても）ある程度の時間がかかるということを考えてみてください。
法律を学べば、大きな事件の責任者になることはないでしょう。
医学は、「本物の」医学博士になるまでにさらに4〜5年かかるでしょう。
会計士であっても、最初は些細な仕事から始めることになる。
トレーディングでは、初日からCEOですから、多くの人が失敗するのも無理はありません。
他のフォーラムから、トレーダー志望の皆さんと共有するのに良い投稿がありました。
ENJOY!
fxcruiserEJ 素敵な記事ですね。私は2年間、毎日睡眠時間よりスクリーン使用時間が長い生活を送ってきました。また、あなたのような素晴らしい人が、人々を正しい方向へ導いてくれることも助けになります。
達成する価値のあることは何一つ簡単ではありませんが、それが楽しくなってきたのです。
HS
以下は、グレッグが別のエミニ先物フォーラムに投稿した内容です。
Not everyone is cut out to be a trader, many just do not have the psychological make up for it, and many, I would even say most do not have the financial make up for it.
Mostly, though new traders weed themselves out of the market, by being ill-prepared, ill-informed and ill-equipped. Sort of like a surgeon showing up in the operating room, figuring he would just try a surgery or 2, before he decides if he really wants to be a surgeon.
For some reason traders do this all the time, I am not sure why, perhaps because access to trading accounts and margin is easy. Many who 'give it a try' with zero knowledge last only a few months, blow their account and never return.
The statistics in the industry are very clear on this.
By the time a wannabe trader figures out it's more complicated than that, he is now operating from a financial and psychological perspective of failure.
I personally know many traders who are successful some who earn a fair living equivalent to other professionals, and some others who earn many times that in a single year.
Last years bonuses for traders at wall street firms set all time records.
Like any business, like any industry and any profession, there will always those who succeed and those who don't.
What separates the two? (a hint, it's the same for any profession)
Hard work, A positive attitude, Perseverance, Time and Discipline
Trading is Evolution not Revolution.
It is not a get rich quick lottery, it is not a game
Many go to Med school, Biz School, Law School and never graduate, they can't cut it. Does that mean that there are no successful Doctors, Businessmen or lawyers in the world?
Not everyone is cut out for every profession, that's just how it is.
Traders do have 1 clear disadvantage, they are allowed (as long as they have $2,000 to open an account) to try their hand at it, it seems to be the ONLY profession where the proper education comes after instead of prior to execution
Just my 2 cents worth
Gregグレッグは非常に鋭いプロのトレーダーであり、トレーディングゾーンの手法と学習コースの開発者です。 これは、私が出会った中で最高のトレーディングコースの一つです。
楽しんでください。
fxcruiser
おっと!Gregが何を追加したのか忘れてしまった。
Many traders see others having success with a style and yet they are not able to.
Your psychology, risk tolerance etc.. all come into play in determining if a style is right for you.
I know JP is a fine trader I have seen him trade. I too use Market Profile but trade a vastly different way than JP does.
And I know I could not trade his way.
My personality requires that I take more trades in a day and hold them for shorter periods of time. This is what works for me.
There is no question that it takes time to discover your "Trading Personality" and then find the style that fits best with it.
So the question is, will a trader still be around financialy, after trying a few styles that may not be right for him.
I think traders need to do more research, and ask the right questions before taking on a style
Such as how many trades per day, do you ever hold overnight positions, how long is the average trade held, what type of stops are used, do you scale in and out of positions etc.....
And next, paper or sim trade that style for a while to see how it feels.
I know that even on a sim trade I could not hold a trade all day, just not my style
GregそれはJUST THE NEWS？
あなたの方法はニュースの前にセットアップされたのでしょうか？
ENJOY!
fxcruiser
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