What would it take to get everyone to finally switch to MT5? (collecting opinions) - page 61

 
Vitaliy Maznev:

If it were up to me, I wouldn't even have chosen the Pentium II, but rather the ZX Spectrum from Sinclair Research from '82. But I didn't make the choice. In fact, I'm not a developer but a user. And for me it is not too crucial about the version of Windows. Although the earlier ones were significantly less demanding on operational resources. And I would not say that they were too inferior in functionality to the new one, as far as the user's point of view is concerned. On the contrary, they were more usable and less intrusive in every way. This progress of operating systems is really not aimed at the interests of the user. To put it mildly.

In my particular case, installing a better version of the OS on my alternative device is problematic due to its limited operating resources. And tearing the whole thing down just because of someone else's progress is not very convenient either. I, for example, gave up Skype and some other too progressive services, which rush to their progress. It's not so much out of stubbornness even, but out of social opportunity. No matter how much you preach the progress of versions of Windows or the same Skype, but for me as a user, nothing fundamentally new, useful and even more indispensable in this incomprehensible progress is noticeable, except the compulsion to provide these developments with more powerful hardware and allocate resources for their progress, not for their own necessity. Don't you find this the destructive side of progress? The interests of the user are completely disregarded. The developers don't give a damn about them. From their high bell tower they sing about safety and comfort. And I can't find any common sense in these sermons. Whose safety and whose comfort? Seeking funds to support the progress of great developers? Whose interest and benefit is it?

Can you soberly outline the common sense of such progress? For a person the only thing that changes is the need to throw away device after device to keep up with the absolutely zero progress. I, as a trader, need a basic terminal for transactions. Whether it's the terminal that worked in 2006 or the one that will continue after March 2019 is irrelevant to such a shitty and dumb colhozny trader. New horizons are great. But for me those horizons are more decorative than functional. I have work to do, not to show off, you know? :)

And what you do manually when trading can't you explain to the robot and free up your time?
 
Artyom Trishkin:

Do you think I'm agitating you? Or intend to? No.
Whoever likes knocking fruit off trees with a stick is free to do so. When one comes to a situation that a beaker cannot feed himself and his family by this activity, looking at those who are far ahead along with progress a long time ago, he may start to think - may be the stick is not right anymore. But it will be almost impossible to catch up with them. And the family will be hungry and the children will ask: "Daddy, why does that man bring home a lot of delicious and ripe fruit, and you bring us rotten, collected from the ground, which we can lift ourselves? And daddy will reply with a strange and incomprehensible expression: "But we're all individuals!", forgetting that there are just as obvious individuals, but among those who keep up with progress.

How's that for a fairy tale?

Artem showed enthusiasm, +++)

 
Baskakov, how do you manage to avoid being banned as a rookie?
 
Vladimir Baskakov:
And what you do manually when trading can't you explain to the robot and free up your time?

You can. And who will hold him responsible if he fails? :)

 
Vitaliy Maznev:

You can. And who will hold him responsible if he fails? :)

Your algorithm will, so you
 
Answering the first question:
For me, as a programmer, it's important to have full support for mt5, EAs and indicators from mt4.

I know that everything can be rewritten rather quickly by adding mt4_to_mt5 libraries, but I would like to have a built in emulator.

The indicators and EAs (on hedge accounts) can all be transferred, no problem.

 
Vladimir Baskakov:
All right they come up, how they communicate with you is unclear.

I don't understand it myself, now they come to Skype, now to FB, and even to VK. Although VK is fine, I sometimes post charts from trading contests there. But skype? I don't have any mentions there.

In my feedback I put all my charts on there and never show them anywhere except on registration at service providers, brokerage houses, etc. Congratulated on February 23, a total bummer ))). We are all open in this internet.

 
Sergey Likho:
I am answering the first question:
For me, as a programmer, it's important to have full support for mt5, EAs and indicators from mt4.

I know that everything can be rewritten rather quickly by adding mt4_to_mt5 libraries, but I would like to have a built in emulator.

Indicators and EAs (on hedge accounts) can all be ported, no problem.

Why waste effort on maintaining obsolete stuff, it would be better to spend it on development of new directions. Who cares about the old stuff, let them sit on MT4, no one is closing it.

About redesigning - with MT4 library it takes from 15 minutes to couple of hours, and this is one time. And the moaning...

And they have introduced similar functions for working with time-series from MT4, now it is even easier to transfer. I am making all my programs multiplatform, in projects for MT5 for a long time.

 
Artyom Trishkin:

What's keeping people on XP? Please don't talk about successful companies that have Pentium II's in their offices, fiddling with dot matrix printers.

In order to continue the development of the MT4 platform, it was necessary to get on a different track - everything got bogged down with the capabilities of a 32-bit system. So MT5 was written from scratch. Read Renat's posts - he told us more than once about the causes and effects. Just go to his profile, to the "Publications" - "All messages" section, and read what he writes, the man who has created more than one trading platform, and who knows all about it "from the inside" - you will find answers to your questions, and you will learn a lot of interesting things. The main thing is to take advantage of your freedom "not to be lazy" ;)

How naive. Really breakthrough events are quite rare, more often it's much simpler and more prosaic. How do you drive market and freelance? Break the backwards compatibility with MT4 codes, although gcc, for example, easily compiles all C dialects since 1989! Giving the simplest MT4 api is some kind of archaic task apparently. To drive an extra million to the market - to simplify the order system (Renat's words) + marketing flak. Etc.

Microsoft will never say " we've written a good OS, there's generally nothing to improve, we're closing down and moving on". They will continue to play the "technology" game, shoving their creations into young minds that need more and more resources, while we, like obedient hamsters, have to run after new hardware. And you proudly call all this progress.

My hardware is 10 years old, I don't use Windows, I don't have any resource limitations. I don't see the point of changing until it breaks. I've got myself a big monitor and I'm happy as an elephant.

 

As an example, look at the system requirements of Microsoft's office 2003 and 2019:

    Платформа [OS]:           Windows 2000
    Разрядность:              x86 (32-bit)
    ЦП [CPU]:                 Pentium 233 MHz
    Видеоадаптер [GPU]:       Встроенная
    Винчестер [HDD]:          245 Mb
    Оперативная память [RAM]: 64 Mb
    Аудиокарта [AUDIO]:       Любая
    Контроллер: Клавиатура,   Мышь
    Интернет:                 Может понадобиться для обновления
    Разрешение экрана:        SVGA 800 x600
Computer and processor Windows: 1.6 gigahertz (GHz) or faster, 2-core. 2.0 GHz or greater recommended for Skype for Business.
 
Memory Windows: 4 GB RAM; 2 GB RAM (32-bit)
 
Hard disk Windows: 4.0 GB of available disk space
 
Display Windows: 1280 x 768 screen resolution
 
Graphics Windows: Graphics hardware acceleration requires DirectX 9 or later, with WDDM 2.0 or higher 
for Windows 10 (or WDDM 1.3 or higher for Windows 10 Fall Creators Update). Skype for Business requires 
DirectX 9 or later, 128 MB graphics memory, and 32 bits per pixel capable format.

Apparently, writing in wordpress has become much more high-tech over the years and has absorbed all the latest "technology". They used DirextX for some excel charts, so it should relieve CPU, but no. Or maybe the reason for increased appetite is

.NET version Windows: Some features may require .NET 3.5 or 4.6 and higher to also be installed

Such progress is certainly not in our interests, we are simply being used.