Who has a website? Is it worth it or not to keep your own resource? - page 9

 
Alexey Volchanskiy:
In general, if you post 50 unique articles at once, the search engine will get suspicious. I used to send newsletters but now I don't know if anyone reads this post? Not me personally )

I don't subscribe to newsletters and if I get something like this, it's immediately filtered out as spam.

 

I've read a little. I thought the topic has been covered.

But I will add my five cents, because the experience of maintaining the site - almost 10 years (as well as programming for forex) and talk want.....


I also know how to write their engines, so go ahead. I, too, "seemed to know how", originally wrote his site engine, worked with the base. spit.

As you say free engine - a marketing ploy.

There is the same Ukoz, and there is a paid UWEB, which has an advanced and full functionality

(You're a programmer, you should know how to sell a paid product, placing the free version).

But of course the site needs a design... oooooo that's a separate song.

Initially, I used free templates. then edit them. Then I bought new ones. Then I made one to order.

Price ranges from $ 5 to $ 500 for design and layout.

In order for your site to get at least something in the extradition, it must be filled. Fill it with keywords, articles. I.e. they have to write them, make a selection of keywords and so on.

A month or two and your article will get you a couple of clicks.

But the site requires you to develop it. And this is not easy.

Advertise on other forums and offer your site there - at once ban.

Now it's easier to advertise the MQL5 profile as described above .


I recently decided to change the site design, found a codec, found a designer, even found a UI specialist.

And they gave me a figure of about 1500 quid for everything. (design, layout, scripts).

I slept with the idea. I thought for a long time, weighed it. But I need a redesign... knocked down the price,then another.... Then I studied the manual, (I know the basics of HTML JS)

And then it went.... all in all I saved 1500 on the redesign.


Next is the approximate prices you will have to put into the site:

and yes, immediately forget about the CIS market, it will not recoup your investment.

  • Domain + Hosting = an average of about 200-300 quid a year.
  • Site promotion (in the beginning) buying advertising and so on = an average of 100 quid a month.
  • Filling the site...... is a separate topic, but at the beginning you will have to sit for 2-3 hours a day.

These are the easy ways.

There are complicated ways:

  • Custom advertising and promotion, = about $1000-1500 per month.
  • Correct UI + Design + Coding (If not by yourself) = about 1500 dollars.



Conclusions:

Have your own personal site it is very prestigious and interesting. There you do what you want.

Update files, descriptions, articles.

But to maintain such a site is very difficult. This is all in the beginning.

Then you just get the hang of it, it will be like an assembly line. Buy advertising, write articles, fill the site with interesting texts...

If you have time to respond to customers, to maintain technical support for their products, to write custom and constantly read new tasks for 30+ sheets, to review key phrases and buy links, advertising, writing articles, to respond to their forum ..........................

Briefly: : if you have at least 2 heads, then you can do it all yourself.



Of course, all written IMHO.

 
Vitalii Ananev:

I don't subscribe to newsletters and if I receive something like this, it is immediately filtered out as spam.


Often a box is requested, well, there's one on Yandex, it doesn't ask for gruel. Push notifications are probably working now, not email. I've subscribed on YouTube to some channels I'm interested in, a new video came out - a push came in, quite handy.

 
Vladislav Andruschenko:

If you have time to respond to customers, maintain technical support for your products, write bespoke jobs and read constantly new 30+ sheet assignments, look up key phrases and buy links, advertise, write articles, reply on your forum

For someone who sells their products here, you don't need the type of website that serves to sell advertising. You won't make much money on forex ads if you sell traffic to search engines. Maybe if you work directly with DCs?

I had 100-200 people a day, my visitors are many times less. The mailing list on my site was about 2000 and I was earning tears from advertising. Wrong content, people need entertainment, then they will come.

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I see one goal - to expand the functionality of the site to support customers and not even advertising (bad word), but to present their products. For such a modest goal no effort as you describe is needed.

 
Alexey Volchanskiy:

For someone who sells their products here, you don't need the type of website that serves to sell advertising. You can't make much from forex advertising if you sell traffic to search engines. Maybe if you work directly with DCs?

I had 100-200 people a day, my visitors are many times less. The mailing list on my site was about 2000 and I was earning tears from advertising. Wrong content, people need entertainment, then they will come.

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I see one goal - to expand the functionality of the site to support customers and not even advertising (bad word), but to present their products. For such a modest goal no effort as you describe is needed.


The site is not needed to sell advertising but vice versa. They sell their products.

You can make a business page for the product with a link to this resource for purchase.

 
Vladislav Andruschenko:

The website is not about selling advertising, it's about the opposite. To sell your products.

You can make product business pages with a link to this resource for purchase.


That's right

And now begin to think, why untwist a site that has zero attendance from scratch, when there are social networking with a billionth of audiences and that are free?

On FB, VK and others, you can create simple websites for free, where people will go simply on the basis of your posts. And what is the further objective of your pure-site?

I think to merge these streams into one.

I created such a mini site in English on FB, posted in English and got a dozen subscribers in the first days, for free.

We live in the age of social networking sites and using grandfatherly methods to promote your site makes no sense. What worked 6-7 years ago is hopelessly outdated.

I've been thinking a lot about it myself, so far I've got this opinion.

 
Alexey Volchanskiy:

That's right

Now start thinking, why promote a site that has zero traffic from scratch when there are social networks with billions in audiences and which are free?

On FB, VK and others, you can create simple sites for free, where people will go simply on the basis of your posts. And what is the further objective of your pure-site?

I think to merge these streams into one.

I created such a mini site in English on FB, posted in English and got a dozen subscribers in the first days, for free.

We live in the age of social networking sites and using grandfatherly methods to promote your site makes no sense. What worked 6-7 years ago is hopelessly outdated.

Myself on this subject a lot, so far the opinion is this.


I've tried social networks, yes, there are a lot of subscriptions, but the conversion rate is 0.1%...... I need to promote everything together to get a good conversion rate :-)

i think that forex is a difficult subject. it's not so easy to promote.

you can't print flyers....

 

A single site (without many affiliate links on popular resources) makes little sense: it is likely to get lost. If not, it will take years to turn it into a profit, at a huge cost in time and, indeed, money. I know a person who has an investor and trader's blog for 3 years, and it still has not become profitable. This is in spite of the fact that he regularly publishes topical articles there which are tailored to popular search queries. In addition, the blog is promoted through social networks. During the whole time of its existence, its costs have exceeded its earnings several times over. To make the site profitable, it is necessary to have a team working purposefully on its promotion. You can't do it alone. Popular and profitable forex websites are often promoted through viral advertising (intrusive banners, robots connecting you to mailing lists and other dishonest tricks).

 
Sergey Vradiy:

A single site (without many affiliate links on popular resources) makes little sense: it is likely to get lost. If not, it will take years to turn it into a profit, at a huge cost in time and, indeed, money. I know a person who has an investor and trader's blog for 3 years, and it still has not become profitable. This is in spite of the fact that he regularly publishes topical articles there which are tailored to popular search queries. In addition, the blog is promoted through social networks. During the whole time of its existence, its costs have exceeded its earnings several times over. To make the site profitable, it is necessary to have a team working purposefully on its promotion. You can't do it alone. Popular and profitable forex websites are often promoted through viral advertising (intrusive banners, robots connecting you to databases for mailing and other unfair tricks).


You can do without viral marketing and do not have a team but maintain everything yourself.

articles are a drop in the bucket, you also need to promote these articles by advertising keywords.

 
Sergey Vradiy:

A single site (without many affiliate links on popular resources) makes little sense: it is likely to get lost. If not, it will take years to turn it into a profit, at a huge cost in time and, indeed, money. I know a person who has an investor and trader's blog for 3 years, and it still has not become profitable. This is in spite of the fact that he regularly publishes topical articles there which are tailored to popular search queries. In addition, the blog is promoted through social networks. During the whole time of its existence, its costs have exceeded its earnings several times over. To make the site profitable, it is necessary to have a team working purposefully on its promotion. You can't do it alone. Popular and profitable forex websites are often promoted through viral advertising (intrusive banners, robots that connect you to databases for mailing and other dishonest tricks).


Yeah, I had one from 2010 to probably 2015. At first I started a blog on Wordpress, purely for communication on the subject of forex programming, because I quit my job and I was bored at home without communication. I started to present free forex programs on the level of modern kodobase and give some occasional lectures on MQL4. Then they asked me to create a proper paid course from scratch. OK, we set a price together, we were engaged for 2 months and everyone was satisfied.

Hosting has become little, took the UPU, put Joomla, 2 years promoted at 100-200 per day and subscription base > 1000. Income from advertising ball penny, but not bad at training in groups. At that time, we were paying $200 for a 20-30 lesson course, with additional tasks, support, etc.

Thus, in brief, the entire income from the site was generated from teaching the visitors how to program in MQL4 + a little Mathlab. I have never mastered trading, as I have not considered myself skilled in it. I used to give some elements as I went along. I also started to ask brokerage companies to pay for webinars.

But I never wanted to become one of the hunters who do not hunt (remember Ordinary Miracle) and become like the forex tutors who do not trade. I was then told that my site was unique, that they had never seen such sites.

I started to have such sites, the flow began to dry up and I have closed my site. I have also had some success with scalping.

Sergey is right, if you do it seriously, you need a team with division of duties, and you need a girl on Skype and on the phone, at least. It is very hard to do it alone, mentally and physically.

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PS: It is easy to trade and develop robots by yourself, you do not need a girl on the phone here ))