Machine learning in trading: theory, models, practice and algo-trading - page 3587

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Maxim Kuznetsov #:

they're both in there, taking orders from each other.)

just a philosophical one: there is no market without a speculator and we can see the proof of it with our own eyes.

It's not a market, it's a hat. Normal bots are not brought to the top, and they are in the market. Hat bots are easily brought to the top through marketing.
Especially since with restrictions on international transfers and higher commissions, the ru section is now an outsider due to difficulty with kickbacks.
 
Maxim Dmitrievsky #:
It's not a market, it's a hat. Normal bots are not brought to the top, and they are in the market. Hats bots are easily brought to the top through marketing.

:-) it's not hat bots, it's someone's bots :-))

That's exactly what marketing and market doesn't work here. A non-hat bot, would be picked up by a speculator, and there is no speculator.

In the absence of an independent speculator, monopolisation occurs. It is possible with him, but without him it is guaranteed.

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indirect sign: with the frequency of bots/signals release 10-100 pieces per week and mego-visitability of the site, have you seen anywhere in the internets the dismantling of new ones? there is no such thing...because nobody is interested in producing it....

 
Maxim Kuznetsov #:

:-) they're not hat bots, they're who-done-it bots :-)

It's marketing and the market that doesn't work here. A non-hat bot would be picked up by a speculator, and there is no such thing.

In the absence of an independent speculator, monopolisation occurs. It is possible with him, but without him it is guaranteed.

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indirect sign: with the frequency of bots/signals 10-100 pieces per week and mego-visitability of the site, have you seen anywhere in the Internet the dismantling of new ones? there is no such thing...because nobody is interested in producing them....

There are normal ones, they just don't get seen. And the average customer can't tell the difference between normal and abnormal. They look at the likes.

If the bots here went through some kind of challenge, like in prop firms, the picture would change a bit.
 
Maxim Dmitrievsky #:
There are normal ones, they just aren't seen. And the average customer doesn't know how to distinguish between normal and abnormal. They look at likes.

If the bots here went through some kind of challenge, like in prop firms, the picture would change somewhat.

It would be a super monopoly

only the special ones will go through a single "challenge"...pi@#astia in colour and beauty.

like in the modern world :-(

 
Maxim Kuznetsov #:

it's gonna be a super monopoly

only the special ones will go through the only "challenge"...pi@#asty in colour and glory.

like the modern world.

It will depend on the criteria for passing the Challenge :)
But there will be immediately cut off profitable TS, which do not meet the criteria of most DCs.
That is, the most good TCs will never be able to sell. Such a paradox 😁
 
Maxim Dmitrievsky #:
It will depend on the criteria for passing the challenge :)
But there will be immediately cut off profitable TS, which do not meet the criteria of most DCs.
That is, the most good TCs will never be able to sell. Such a paradox 😁

with any fair criteria, the very non-alternativity of "chelenge" will provoke this shameful phenomenon.

That's also a paradox

 
Maxim Kuznetsov #:

under any of the fairest criteria, the very non-alternativeness of the "Challenge" will provoke this shameful phenomenon.

This is also a paradox

If you don't try - you won't know :) the optimal solution in this bacchanalia would be to try to abolish the top and every day generate a page with random bots.
And keep the rating page, but hide it deeper. And write that the rating does not reflect the real quality of the product.

This would smooth out the marketing component a bit, in theory. Lessen its importance.

And a separate page with a challenge where developers, not marketers, fight.
 

If you write something like "Everything that is written on labels does not reflect the quality of products. Buy a randomly selected product, because no one knows which of them is good.", then people will not run away from such a shop, but will directly brush away from it.)))

Perhaps, yes, it may help some constant testing testing products and display a table of results, which displays various indicators of trade (and the buyer sorting by indicators can choose the appropriate, such a fitting room in the shop). Not a rating of products, but a comparative table of different indicators. So you can cover the largest possible audience of buyers for different preferences, instead of orientation of potential buyers on the top ten best (despite the top places products may not like customers, and find personally the best is very problematic). This will require investment in equipment, but intuition suggests that the investment should pay off through much greater coverage of the audience of buyers.

This, of course, applies only to the "Experts" section, where every buyer will find the perfect product and no seller will be left without customers, but in the other sections, God knows how best for sellers and buyers at the same time.

 
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Andrey Dik #:

If you write something like"Everything that is written on labels does not reflect the quality of products. Buy a randomly selected product, because nobody knows which of them is good.", then people will not run away from such a shop, but will directly rush away from it)).


it's really true :-))

have you read the terms and conditions of the same market ?

"it is impossible to guarantee or promise <there is a list of the wishes of the average user>".

and there are no other shops, and the user doesn't care about other things.

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