Is there proof of profit from using Autotrading? - page 10

 
Vitalii Ananev:


Of course there is. But no one takes anyone's word for it. And to prove its profitability we need to trade on this algorithm for a long time.

Here is an example of a test from 1974 to the present EURUSD server methaquotes-demo. About the same should be the case with real trading.


The only way to get that kind of profit is to work on a $20/week salary - minus taxes you'll get about 30 thousand dollars)).

Who prevents you from drawing trillions in the tester over 43 years anyway? The tester is all the same.

ZS: Oh, now it's time to measure tester strategies))))
 
nowi:


let me guess: it's the MOTION that counts!!!)



What's wrong with MOTION?

It not only takes the money (on the return trip on Martin), but at the same time PROVIDES it: "Hey... open your eyes... and don't flick your mitt..." - it sort of nudges them.

 
prikolnyjkent:


What's not to like about MOTION ?

It not only takes the money (on the way back on Martin), but at the same time it PROVES it: "Hey... open your eyes... and don't flick your mitt..." - It's like a nudge.


everybody likes it... i'm in for a move ...hooray for the billions ....
 
Renat Akhtyamov:

That's bullshit...

Here's the latest refinement


By the way, confirmed by monitoring on real cents ...

Profitable autotrading is possible - that's 100%.

The only difference is who and how much time and money will spend on ATS creation, and who is lucky enough.

Personally, I killed 7 years and it seemed to me to be a very difficult and huge job in no uncertain terms....


Your example by the way looks like a martingale.

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The only difference is how much time and money I've spent on my own development martingale, which surprisingly continues to work on different symbols and timeframes with the same settings.

EURUSD M30

EURUSD H1

EURUSD H4

USDCHF M30

USDCHF H1

NZDUSD M30

NZDUSD H1

USDCAD M15

USDCAD M30

USDCAD H1

 
Lilita Bogachkova:


Your example looks like a martingale by the way.

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Such a conclusion from an abandoned proprietary martingale development which surprisingly, to this day, continues to work on different symbols and timeframes with the same settings .


Perhaps, however, compare the volumes and it becomes obvious - it is not a martin, not even close.

To put it simply - it is a perfect replica of the forex market.


 
Renat Akhtyamov:

[...] is not a martin.


Then congratulations.
After all, if you can achieve results without martingale by using short SLs (around 50p) and a large number of trades, that in my opinion is already very good.
 
Lilita Bogachkova:
Then congratulations.
After all, if you can achieve results without martingale by using short SLs (around 50p) and a large number of trades, I think that's already very good.
There is no SL or TP. It's automatic, not manual. SL and TP is not acceptable for autotrading. Only bare logic on entry and exit and there is no single parameter and absolutely no optimisation.
 
Renat Akhtyamov:
There is no SL or TP. It's automatic, not manual. SL and TP are not acceptable for autotrading. Only logic on entry and exit.


I don't know! Personally, I abandoned the development of dozens of strategies because they didn't work with short SL and a large number of trades.

As I've said before, I think we need to save capital when we are losing and not hope that things will suddenly change in our favour.

 
Lilita Bogachkova:


I don't know! Personally, I abandoned the development of dozens of strategies because they didn't work with short SL and a large number of trades.

As I said earlier, I believe that when there is a loss, we should preserve capital rather than hope that things will suddenly change in our favour.

There should be no losses.

Requirements to the TS:

- 100% of trades are in the black

- Equity is higher than the balance.

- no deposit required.

What stop-losses are you still talking about, I told you there are none!

And by the way, 10s of TSs is very little. I've written hundreds of them, maybe more, I've lost count...
 
Renat Akhtyamov:

There should be no losses.

Requirements to the TS:

- 100% trades in profit

- Equity above balance

- Working without a deposit.

What stop-losses are you still talking about, I told you there are none!


If your equity is higher than the balance, what prevents you from increasing SL by 5, 10 points or more? If you consider SL to be a rudiment, why do you think it is a hindrance in your strategy?


Renat Akhtyamov:


By the way, 10 TS is very little. I've written hundreds of them.
This is a difference between writing and developing.