what is the right way to learn? - page 11

 
LRA:
Showing is not enough - you have to prove with graphs and other statistical material. Do your statistics fit, do you have any? Or is it just banter?!

I can't understand why you are afraid of any statistics you find convenient...?

Or do you think that the law "if you add two apples to two apples, you get four apples" applies only to my apples? All other apples will yield either three apples... or five?
Where is the guarantee that the statistics I have provided are not "fake"?

Are you going to look into the subject, or are you going to "pussyfoot around"...?

 
prikolnyjkent: On all the others - will it be either 3 apples... or 5?

Where is the guarantee that the statistics I have provided are not "fake"?

Do you yourself find your statistics hard to rely on? Do you doubt yourself? So why are you trying to prove it in one thread - it's a failure, now in another?
 
prikolnyjkent:

Are you going to look into the topic ... ?..

Address this question to yourself
 
prikolnyjkent:

I can't understand why you are afraid of any statistics you find convenient...?

Or do you think that the law "if you add two apples to two apples, you get four apples" only holds for my apples? All other apples will yield either three apples... or five?
Where is the guarantee that the statistics I have provided are not "fake"?

Are you going to look into the subject, or are you going to "pussyfoot around"...?

Forex is not apples. Even if we absolutely synchronously open the same trades with different brokerage companies, on different types of accounts - the result will be very different, so yes, "All the others - will go either 3 apples,... or 5" ;)

And to say that

to lose on Forex - CANNOT (!!!) it needs SPECIAL EFFICIENCY (which, apparently, is obtained by people who ignore work with statistics)

In such a case, only a person who has just begun his journey in this business and has not yet learned all aspects of the market. Or just another mouth-breather. You can say whatever you like, even provide a report of your own, but these are the phrases that appear.)

There are many variations. If the broker does not block the EA for too frequent requests, the deposit can be lost very easily and effortlessly with an EA consisting of literally a dozen strings in seconds. You can simply enter the entire deposit from scratch, and you may even be lucky to double your balance for the first time, but you will inevitably lose it. One can martingale on a ten-dollar account and be happy about rapid balance growth at first. One can rely on "super-reliable" indicators and trade without martingale, with a reasonable lot, but with a miserable profit factor, and the deposit gradually melts.

And even in case of successful trading you will not be able to withdraw "honestly earned" money, because brokerage company has "not the most honest rules" and does not want to part with the dough. And it is hard to know in advance, because there are more positive reviews in the Internet than negative.

In all these cases no "statistics" processing will help, because "two apples" on the balance will not tell you how to get many-many apples in the future and not to give all of them to the brokerage company in the end.

 

In general, forex is a game and should be treated as a casino game. Some people take as much money as they can afford to lose and still leave satisfied, even after losing. And someone brings all and still owes more, but still time after time is trying to "beat the system")))

Somebody has a brokerage company and lures gullible people, or PAMM, or just courses to "take the dough out of the Forex market", that is the wisest, forex earns in this way, and there are programmers who write on demand or for sale, but the earnings there are like the normal freelancer, that is, then not.

So, if you want to learn how to make money on Forex, you better learn to be a programmer, or save money for your own brokerage company. If you want to trade - only with money, which you would not mind losing, and in any case, not with borrowed money.

And do not rush to the real, there is a demo, where you can lose billions until you get bored ;)

 
evillive:

...

And to say that

...can only be said by a man who has just begun his journey in this business and does not yet know all sides of the market. Or just another codger.

Wrong (exactly like "...a man who has just started his way in this business and does not yet know all sides of the market.)

I'm not very long ago, ran a public project online, in the style of "Who's the fastest to lose" ... and in practice showed that, adhering to certain rules, withdraw the deposit faster than the speed of spread - does not work

Forex is not apples. Even if absolutely synchronously open identical trades with different brokerage companies, on different types of accounts - the result will be very unequal, so, yes, "All others - will have either 3 apples or 5" ;)

It would be very interesting to see at least one such example(when at one dealer the result of a series of trades is equal to the sum of results of each individual trade of the series, and at another dealer - only 80% of its results... You'd better use your brain, when you push the buttons on the keyboard ...)

In all these cases, no "statistics" processing will help, because "two apples" on the balance will not tell you how to get many, many apples in the future and not to give them all to DC in the end.

(from the same thread...)

It's interesting that instead of just getting together and SEEING what's what, you, like a pack, throw yourselves at your interlocutor, trying to shut him up.... One wonders if you're not just planted trolls from dealing kitchens, zealously defending your masters' profits from ideas that are dangerous to them...? А?..

 
prikolnyjkent:

Wrong (exactly like "...a man who has just started his journey in this business and does not yet know all sides of the market.)

I've been trying to find a reliable trading system that allows to make a stable profit not for a couple of weeks or months before a loss, but for several years, previous attempts have led to an inevitable loss in a month or two. And both in manual trading and in self-written trading. Yes, I had some profit before the loss, even a very good one, I had something to open a new deposit with, but after that I was still losing. I have good results (so I have some experience))).

It would be very interesting to see at least one such example (when results of one dealer's series of deals is equal to the sum of results of each individual trade of the series, and the other dealer's is only 80 percent of it)... You'd better use your brain, when you push buttons on your keyboard...)

So I wrote something else, that the result of identical trades withdifferent brokerage companies - different, I've specially allocated, if badly visible. And the quotes in different brokerage companies are also different.

What's interesting is that instead of just getting together and seeing what's going on, you, like a pack, are attacking your opponent, trying to shut him up ... One wonders if you're not just planted trolls from dealing kitchens, zealously defending your masters' profits from ideas that are dangerous to them...? А?..

Well, show me, what's there to see, I've asked above, examples, with pictures and specific numbers. So far, only words.

About the trolls, let it be on your conscience.

 
evillive:

I've been trying for years to find a reliable trading system that allows me to churn out stable profits not for a couple of weeks or months before I lose, but for several years, previous attempts led to inevitable losing after a month or two...


This is the inevitable price to pay for stability.
 
evillive:

...

So show me, what's there to see, I told you above, examples, with pictures and concrete figures. So far just words.

...

So somebody give me some data for an example. Anything that you think is the most revealing.

Clearly, it will be my statistics or a test of some Expert Advisor - for consideration does not matter in the slightest

 
prikolnyjkent:

So give me some data for an example. Whatever you think is most revealing.

It is clear that it will be my statistics, or from the test of some adviser - for consideration does not matter the slightest bit

Don't you have your own data? It's easier to show it on your own example.

But anyway, here is a tester run of one of my EAs optimized for euro pound and tested it on kiwi - oddly enough, the deposit has survived )))

The file is html, I have added a text file extension due to restrictions on the types of attachments on the forum.

Files:
test.htm.txt  530 kb