New Forex - page 4

 
Vizard:


i.e. you should first apologize for your false grail. ...and post it in the code base for beginners...

2.don't create branches - psychological defences - excuses...but honestly admit to yourself...that there is no understanding of the market...

3.Once this is done - a new vision of the market will come ... and people may or may not give advice ...

but at least they will look at it differently...

good luck...


1. I have not promised anyone a grail, and replenishing profits in the case of a correct interpretation of the indicator signals, I really promised and fulfilled my promise, because all indicator predictions of a temporary decline in the rate, made in the midst of its sharp upward movement, have been worked out in several stages, If someone disputes this fact, I will not enter into controversy, because I'm tired of arguments, and the principle of creating an indicator is fully described in the article, believe me, I have not hidden or withheld anything there, even there it is possible to create a better indicator than I have now.

2. I have nothing to justify, because I have created my first, truly predictive, let it be bad for some, theory and practice with specific predictive equations, lines, looking to the future, confirming with correct understanding, but really far from perfect, strategy, for now. Show me concretely such attempt or achieved results in the whole history of market development, not in name, but on concrete facts, i.e. alternative (18) formulation of the price, so that one can compare my results, however bad, before criticising and claiming that I do not understand the market.

3.I have never shunned constructive criticism and now I admit that I may be wrong, but then point the right specific way instead of vague formulations of possibility or impossibility of price prediction.

 
yosuf:

Much will become clear from the above link, where it is specified by whom, when and for what purpose this genie was released from the bottle, from which the official authorities who created it disavow, but willingly use its services at the right time, but did not warn about its terrible properties, like unpredictability due to uncontrollability, noting only that it is a kind of business with a high risk of loss. It is so cleverly contrived that the commodity you purchased, which is currency, can disappear in the blink of an eye, even though you intended to risk only a negative increment in the value of the currency if your trading strategy fails, as happens with any commodity purchased for commercial purposes, and forex swings the entire value of the commodity and successfully manages this fiscal policy. The paradox is that the commodity purchased for business purposes disappears entirely into an increment of that same currency. You can console yourself with the fact that your commodity hasn't actually disappeared, but it has helped the currency gain a new competitive value, but that doesn't make your wallet feel any better. In the new Forex there should be no room for the very possibility of disappearance of the currency, though the commercial risk should be kept within reasonable limits like in the common market. This can be achieved by giving only you the right, within the value of the vanished currency, to open a sell operation at any time you want, and not to anyone who has nothing to do with bringing the value of the currency to such a high level that it became possible to steam in a sell operation! In adverse circumstances, i.e. a decrease in the value of the currency you bought, you must be able to wait for the situation with the currency in your hands, even if slightly devalued, it will certainly recover in value and bring you profit, because DTs will try by all means to repurchase them from you, exactly repurchase, and not lure, as now.

margaret 28.03.2011 22:55

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Forex (sometimes FX, from FOReign EXchange ) is a market for interbank currency exchange at free prices (quotes formed without restrictions or fixed values). Usually, the term Forex market (FX-market) is used. The term Forex is commonly used to refer to a mutual exchange of currencies but not the totality of currency transactions.....

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https://www.mql4.com/go?https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Форекс

So this is your new ASHKUCH ?

Yusufhoja, you should distinguish the margin spot - that is, the speculative part of the FOREX market, from the "currency delivery" part of the currency exchange market - that is its main part, the ASCM. In a marginal spot, you do not trade the asset itself - the currency, but the pricing is from the foreign exchange market ;). Do you want to trade currency, what is called "on delivery" ;) ? No problem: with 100 quid go to the exchanger bank or any other ;) if you have a couple of myos own, there are options to work through banks "with delivery" (just buy at a rate closer to the ACCUC + bank commission) or through some dealers (forexite, for example, offered such a service before - how now I do not know). Just forget about MT4 ;)..... If you have a larger amount - create your own bank and go ahead ;) ..... Prices are formed equally ;) - i.e. spot prices from there..... You may sit with foreign currency in hand, without margin - you won't even have a margin ..... Maybe it's time to educate yourself about what you are going to do. ;)

Good luck.

 
yosuf:

So I propose that we come up with a new forex with signs of a real market, where it will be more interesting to trade.

Flag on the play!
 
VladislavVG:

So this is your new ASHKUCH ?

Yusufkhoja, you should distinguish the margin spot - that is, the speculative part of the FOREX market, from the "currency delivery" part of the foreign exchange market - that is the main part of it, the ASCH. On a margin spot, you do not trade the asset itself - the currency, but the pricing is from the foreign exchange market.) Do you want to trade currency, what is called "on delivery" ;) ? No problem: with 100 quid go to the exchanger bank or any other ;) if you have a couple of myos own, there are options to work through banks "with delivery" (just buy at a rate closer to the ACCUC + bank commission) or through some dealers (forexite, for example, offered such a service before - how now I do not know). Just forget about MT4 ;)..... If you have a larger amount - create your own bank and go ahead ;) ..... Prices are formed equally ;) - i.e. spot prices from there..... You may sit with foreign currency in hand, without margin - you won't even have a margin ..... Maybe it's time to educate yourself about what you are going to do. ;)

Good luck.


Now that's a constructive conversation, now the experts who know the ins and outs of it should get involved, and I'll present the profit formulation in this market soon, as it works flawlessly in the normal goods and services market.
 
yosuf:

Only more shrewd and farsighted, like in the real market. By the way, why is the real market not satisfying you? Probably there are no "lottery" situations, like in Forex, when we are tirelessly watching the computer to see when an opportunity makes us happy, without thinking about the consequences. It would be OK if we understood Forex, we play at chance, even the rules of entry and exit are not formulated, everything is based on chance coincidences. A real market should leave room for human efforts to make more profit.

There is one catch, it is you (the market) that is not satisfied, because you have not had the foresight or foresight... I, for example, am completely satisfied with it, no wiggle room. Strict mathematical calculation and understanding what, how and for what I do...

You've been told and shown 100 times what to do, but you think you're smarter than everyone else ... congratulations, I hope the market has hit you, and hit you good, maybe you'll get wise. The smart learn from other people's mistakes, I hope you learn from your own ... not to teach others, not to overhaul the market, but to learn and get smart ...

I am very surprised by the title of the thread, I understand that a young man wrote it and not ("Associate Professor of Economics and Entrepreneurship at the Tajik State University of Commerce"). If an associate professor at an economics university has such knowledge, what knowledge do students have?

Well, read it at your leisure. And the next time you come up with a new forex, start by redesigning the entire banking system

 
yosuf:

I get the idea that Forex is not a market at all, because market laws do not apply here. In a real market, when you sell a product at a low price, you sell a lot, but the profit will be less, i.e. there is a first break-even point. An attempt to increase the price leads to a decrease in sales and the profit made is only enough to cover costs and this second break-even point. between these two prices there is an optimum selling price, which provides maximum profit. Do any of these laws hold in Forex or other stock markets? Of course not. Here any amount of goods can be sold at any price, which contradicts the basic law of the market. Forex, as a child of the monopoly era, cannot but bear the imprint of its time. The seeming absolute liquidity of the goods, which you do not meet in the market conditions, is realized here. Therefore, we must first find out whether this is a market at all, and what laws of pricing should work here, and if there are no laws, then it is lawlessness, the market should be governed by the laws of supply and demand, which do not exist on the market. So I propose to invent a new forex with the signs of a real market, where it will be more interesting to trade. Let's try to formulate together the basic rules of the new market, as close to the real market as possible, the laws of formation of profit in which I have recently formulated depending on the purchase and sale price of goods, fixed and variable costs, and this pattern, true for the real market, will also operate within the new forex. I will try to make such a thread to thoroughly analyze everything and bring the future market closer to the real one. I propose to present my vision of the problem.


Give, for example, a hundred people a hundred virtual dollars and 100 virtual commodities, each. And let them trade with one another by placing bids on the principle of double auction, like on the stock market. Well, and see who turns out to be the last hero)))). Although you can simulate the flow of dough - once a day, each throw a virtual dollar.
 
Avals:

For example, give a hundred people 100 virtual dollars and 100 virtual commodities each. And let them trade with each other by placing bids on a double auction basis, like in the stock market. Well, and see who turns out to be the last hero)))). Although you can simulate the flow of money - once a day, each nakilivayut a virtual dollar.

And here there is a certain phenomenon - unsolved. Synergy, of course, is a science, but I, for example, can't understand it. Even in the kitchen the same processes occur, as at the stock exchange.

Any thoughts?

 
Svinozavr:

But there is a phenomenon here - unsolved. Synergetics, of course, is a science, but - to me, for example - not understandable in any way... Even in the kitchen the same processes arise as in the stock market.

Any thoughts?


What are the processes or how can they be modelled? To maintain liquidity, you introduce a volunteer who is given more resources, but also certain responsibilities to maintain the spread. Everything has already been worked out, for example on the MICEX website in the duties of a specialist and market maker. If you want, you can attach some traders to a particular liquidity provider, which would simulate kitchen sink schemes. But this is already messy)) - Arbitrators would be needed, etc.
 
Avals:

What are the processes or how do you model them? To maintain liquidity, you introduce a volunteer who is given more resources, but also certain responsibilities to maintain the spread. Everything has already been worked out, for example on the MICEX website in the duties of a specialist and market maker. If you want, you can attach some traders to a particular liquidity provider, which would simulate kitchen sink schemes. But this is already messy)) - Arbitrageurs would be needed, etc.

That's not what I mean. (About that - very much in the know))

It's about synergy - things happen this way and not that way.

 
Svinozavr:

That's not what I mean. (About that - very much in the know)))

It's about a synergistic grub - things happen this way and not that way.

Well the most trivial is the formation of bubbles. Since the amount of money in hand is limited, there will be periodic price spikes in the commodity. With information about the trades and their volume, you can estimate the amount of money in play. And when the participants do not have enough money to keep driving the price up, it will crash))) The unrealised paper profit of many will quickly turn into a loss. The winners will be those who sold to them at the top.

So will the other effects. Over time, people will start to crowd in on position holding time, order placement and other ways to enter/exit a position. This bunching will self-organise plus rolls will make a mark (such as trading schedule, margin, etc.).