What form, let's assume a physical body, does time have? Your opinion. - page 56

 
Zhunko:
And by evening again the analysis...


... ...and at midnight annihilation. And in the morning again synthesis - the rebirth of God ;))
 
tara:
There's been fusion there since this morning, I think...


Synthesis, collapse, synthesis, collapse, meeting, parting, meeting, parting, birth, death, birth, death, trend, flat, trend, flat, up, down, up, down, forward, back,forward, back , etc.Without fluctuation, there is no life, there is nothing!

A little more complicated: canal, canal, anal, analyse, out, ism, lism, enema, cataclysm, enema, bigband and bigband! Analyse! ;))
 
moskitman:

So nothing changes in the rest of the world then either.



"...Nothingbut the STATUS at every single point...", for if you are going to claim that ANOTHER THING, Beside THIS, is changing, be prepared to explain where it, this THING, came from.

Options like "Creator's creation" or "Big Bang" are not welcome...

 
the state of each single point is just a coordinate in a coordinate system and nothing more. this is how points are explained in the mathematical world. you don't have to give points volumes where you can put states...that's the first. second. if you start looking at mathematics and physics, giving points the ability to change coordinates which are still states of individual points, it will be very difficult if not impossible to explain where this movement comes from unless you resort to the big bang or say the creation of a well explain
 
Boeing747:
the state of every single point is just coordinates in some coordinate system and nothing more... this is how points are explained in the mathematical world. you don't need to give points volumes where you can put any states...this is first. second. if you start considering mathematics with physics by giving points the ability to change coordinates which are still states of single points, it will be very difficult if not impossible to explain where this motion comes from unless you resort to big bang theory or say an act of creation well explain


Nothing of the sort...

THE STATE of each single point is the REAL VALUE of the PARAMETER we are interested in, NOT INDEPENDENT OF OUR OWN VIEW OF IT.
In this case, the term "point" implies just the VOLUME of space, the size of which WE and YOU AGREE TO ENFORCE.
A "point" in space CANNOT CHANGE COORDINATES, for the coordinates, together with their SYSTEMS, exist ONLY in OUR IMAGE. (That is, the point of space we are considering is NOT IN THE POSITION TO MOVE. ONLY a VARIABLE VARIABLE VARIABLE is moving. Thus, there is no need to explain, "...where motion comes from..." points by various-that-is theories of explosions and acts).

And it's not clear why you don't like a world where "...there is no movement of single points." ?

 
tara:
There's been fusion there since this morning, I think...
Synthesis is not there. The centre of the luminosity is the igniter. It's also the supplier of free nucleons for fusion, by the way.
 
prikolnyjkent:


Not at all...

The STATUS of each single point is the REAL VALUE of the PARAMETER of interest, NOT RELIABLE WITH OUR VIEW of it.
In this case, the term "point" implies just the VOLUME of space, the size of which WE and YOU AGREE TO ENFORCE.
A "point" in space CANNOT CHANGE COORDINATES, for the coordinates, together with their SYSTEMS, exist ONLY in OUR IMAGE. (That is, the point of space we are considering is NOT IN THE POSITION TO MOVE. ONLY a VARIABLE VARIABLE VARIABLE is moving. Thus, there is no need to explain, "...where motion comes from..." points by various-that-is theories of explosions and acts).

And it's not clear why you don't like a world where "...there is no movement of single points." ?

So you would argue that the motion of a material body in space merely changes the current state of each individual point in space?
 
moskitman:
So, would you argue that the motion of a material body in space merely changes the current state of each individual point in space?


Where else am I to go?

After all, if you try to RECOGNIZE the existence of a so-called MATERIAL body, you inevitably have to explain WHERE IT COMES FROM.

And when you look at it closely enough, it turns out that there isn't even a body...

 
prikolnyjkent:


Nothing of the sort...

The state of each individual point is the REAL value of the parameter of interest, NOT INDEPENDENT FROM OUR OWN VIEW OF IT.
In this case, the term "point" implies just the VOLUME of space, the size of which WE and YOU AGREE TO ENFORCE.
A "point" in space CANNOT CHANGE COORDINATES, because coordinates, together with their SYSTEMS, exist ONLY in OUR IMAGE. (That is, the point of space we are considering is NOT IN THE POSITION TO MOVE. ONLY a VARIABLE VARIABLE VARIABLE is moving. Thus, there is no need to explain, "... where motion comes from..." points by various theories of explosions and acts).

And it's not clear why you don't like a world where "...there is no movement of single points." ?

well... if we consider a point as a separated vanishingly small volume of space then we can't argue with you. although no... I think I disagree. your theory of fixed points of space is very much like the theory of ether which moves in the spaces between atoms of the earth and any body in the galaxy... of some fixed substance embracing with geometrically correct web all Universe in relation to which the light can sometimes take fantastic values of velocities...that is the speed of light will directly depend on speed of this light source. are you aware that speed of light or the same parameter change wave is always constant and equal to 300 000 km/sec regardless of choice of coordinate system? i will never agree that space is absolute what you are hinting at...
 
prikolnyjkent:


Where else am I supposed to go?

After all, if you try to RECOGNIZE the existence of a so-called MATERIAL body, you inevitably have to explain WHERE IT COMES FROM.

And if you look at it closely enough, you'll realize that there isn't even a body...

In that case, it would be rather difficult to explain inertia, which is directly related to the mass and velocity of a non-existent body.