Paper "AMERO" will replace the dollar by spring!? - page 49

 
Mischek >> :

Back early.

Against Fantomas, even Commissioner Jouf was powerless :)

 
rsi >> :

The question was not for me, but let me retort.

It is a pity that in the heat of a person-oriented polemic the participants of the discussion did not perceive Figaro's statements on this subject. I have not searched, but approximately as follows: either white or red - the difference for a man is not great. I agree with him. The state (any form of self-organization and self-regulation of society) is once again in crisis. A change in the formation of the State has always been accompanied by a change in the economic system. Today's economic and financial crisis is a manifestation of a more serious crisis of the world social and political system. And the calls for reconsideration, rethinking, introduction of new rules, reserve or/and international (regional) currencies are but the poking of a blind kitten, of a nascent new global society in search of an adequate social-political formation, a new system of self-government, guaranteeing its survival and (preferably) a hope for further development.

I am not a supporter of new Utopias, much less revolutions. But it is regrettable that in our small community the search for blame has somewhat removed the subject area from the forefront.

There are no culprits. There is no model, no benchmark trajectory for society. And to say which state or governmental figures are right or wrong is just a matter of a subjective feeling; it is impossible to substantiate and, moreover, to prove it rigorously.

I agree with everything that has been said except one thing. Which subject area do you mean by that? If the "how is the crisis affecting our not so big community" then the discussion is doomed to search for someone to blame or to generate a new one.

simple, funny exit recipes that they can't get their heads around

 
goldtrader >> :

Against Fantomas, even Commissar Jouf was powerless :)

Maybe it's real VV? Well, I was surfing the net, looking for recipes for the crisis, and here timbo is telling the truth, so I couldn't help myself.

 
Mischek >> :

I agree with everything that has been said except one thing. What subject area have you been referring to? If "how the crisis is affecting our not-so-small community", the discussion is doomed to a blame game or to the generation

simple, ridiculous exit recipes that they can't get their heads around.

Gentlemen! We are living in a hell of an era!!!

 
rsi писал(а) >>

It is a pity that in the heat of a personality-oriented debate the participants did not take up Figaro's statements on this subject. I couldn't find it, but it goes something like this: white or red, there's not much difference for a man. I agree with him. The state (any form of self-organization and self-regulation of society) is once again in crisis. A change in the formation of the State has always been accompanied by a change in the economic system. Today's economic and financial crisis is a manifestation of a more serious crisis of the world social and political system. And the calls to reconsider, to rethink, to introduce new rules, reserve or/and interethnic (regional) currencies, are but the poking of a blind kitten - of a nascent new global society, in the search for an adequate social-political formation, a new system of self-government, which guarantees its survival and (preferably) a hope for further development.

I am not a supporter of new Utopias, much less revolutions. But it is regrettable that in our small community, the search for the guilty has somewhat removed the subject area from the foreground.

There are no culprits. There is no model, no benchmark trajectory for society. And to say which state or figures of the governments are acting rightly or wrongly is just an expression of subjective feeling; it is impossible to ground and moreover to prove it strictly.

I agree in essence. However, concerning the search for the guilty - here, in my opinion, is a misunderstanding.

Searching for someone to blame only makes sense when it is needed to determine the causes, errors, and to find the right solutions.

Modern agents of political and economic scene really don't have a model. More precisely, there is only one - the American one. And they insist on it, despite everything.

But my critique of both our own and Americans is not based on a feeling or on self-interest - who will make me feel better, but on an understanding of what these actions will lead to for the country and for humanity. And I make these assessments in terms of the model I, oddly enough, have. The US, of course, has only one chance to change its model - through revolution (not every revolution is socialist, don't get me wrong :-). But the probability of that is zero. Russia, on the other hand, really could. Russia is at a crossroads, and it does not have strong structures that would make it impossible. One has to move somewhere anyway. The only problem is that people think primitively: either socialism - then go back to the USSR, or capitalism - then go after America. Although in fact this "forward" is also backward.

On the other hand, Russia as a state is now strong enough to make a non-trivial choice. But unfortunately it is being turned into a pro-American zombie by flat-earthers like Kudrin and co. That's what it's a shame for. History always gives only one chance.

 
Yurixx >> :

Still have to move somewhere.

>> I don't get it. >> "How much to weigh in grams?" What exactly to do and to whom.

 
Mischek писал(а) >>

Could this be the real BB? So I was surfing the net, looking for recipes for the crisis, and here timbo is telling the truth, so I couldn't help myself.

Wasn't it sabluk ? The language is the same.

 
Yurixx писал(а) >>

My critical assessments of both ours and the Americans are not based on a feeling or on self-interest - who will make me feel better, but on an understanding of what these actions are leading to for the country and for humanity. And I make these assessments in terms of the model I, oddly enough, have. The US, of course, has only one chance to change its model - through revolution (not every revolution is socialist, don't get me wrong :-). But the probability of that is zero. Russia, on the other hand, really could. Russia is at a crossroads, and it does not have strong structures that would make it impossible. One has to move somewhere anyway. The only problem is that people think primitively: either socialism - then go back to the USSR, or capitalism - then go after America. Although in fact this "forward" is also backward.

On the other hand, Russia as a state is now strong enough to make a non-trivial choice. But unfortunately it is being turned into a pro-American zombie by flat-earthers like Kudrin and co. That's what it's a shame for. History always gives only one chance.

I think Russia has already taken its chance at a revolution) Maybe we have had enough? Let someone else experiment on his country and his people. The evolutionary path is somehow closer to me, how much can we learn from our mistakes?

 
Yurixx писал(а) >>

...We still have to move somewhere.

...On the other hand, Russia as a state is now strong enough to make non-trivial choices.

One still has to move somewhere - this is when you are looking for a toilet. Russia is still weak enough to make a non-trivial choice. What is the strength?

 
Mathemat >> :

Isn't it sabluk? The language is the same.

>> that's me confusing the moderators.)