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It seems that the Championship is not a championship, but a clever analysis of existing profitable Expert Advisors in order to stump traders even more effectively... Or am I the only one who has this impression?
I have already voiced my idea about the true aims of the championship, but that was a long time ago. In my opinion, the main audience of the championship is the DCs. The championship is set up for them to demonstrate how nice platform from MQ is, on the one hand, and how much fun potential clients of these brokerage companies have, and the statistics of the championship show exactly that. I.e. whichever way you look at it, the platform is awesome. MQ gets their money (honestly earned!) from the brokerage companies, i.e. their work on increasing customer satisfaction is directed to the brokerage companies. To think otherwise is not rational.
"Traders" in this business model are a flock of sheep that must be fed, cared for and sheared. The lousy sheep can be slaughtered if it does not give wool.
On the third hand, pips players are cheaters, who take advantage of technical imperfection of Forex casino. As if at the roulette wheel the winning number is announced after the wheel stops - such is the technology, but pipser puts on red, when the ball is stopped, but the wheel is still spinning. Cheaters are detected and not allowed into the casino. DTs on MT also fight their cheaters. Play by casino rules and you'll be fine - you'll be fed and protected. Or don't play in the casino.
Interesting example you gave.... It's understandable that the crisis and all that... But these are purely technical questions:
At what price an order will be opened (closed): the price that is on the chart or in the market review?
The crisis has nothing to do with it. All trades are executed at the prices from the Market Watch.
Which quote will go into the history base?
The historical base is based on the OHLC values from the charts. In the above example the historical base will not match the prices that were.
What does MarketInfo(,MODE_SPREAD) show ?
MarketInfo takes all data from Market Watch.
After all, the price at which you were opened (closed) may not be in the history at all, and this is a reason for a claim, if there is a lot of money at stake.
Of course, they can give the client a price a few (or 100) pips away and immediately go back, but I think it should go to the rest and to the historical base.
To what extent is this individual quoting possible, different from the general flow of quotes ?
Claims can always be made. But in 99% of cases they will not be satisfied. Because MetaTrader on the client side saves only OHLC Bid prices. There is no Ask price in the history base at all. The above example is an individual spread widening to a constant value in automatic mode. I.e. if most clients have the spread changed so 15-20-16-..., then the trader with an individual approach has the spread as 18(21)-23(26)-19(22)-... To save all ticks (Bid and Ask prices) in MetaTrader, it's better to use the DDE method, because there is no tick missing due to the accumulation buffer. Expert Advisors will not save all ticks because ticks come in packs and the Expert Advisor is executed only on the end tick of each pack.
And what is the point of backtests and demo tests in general?
Tester for the case of a fixed spread only. Demo, as a rule, corresponds to the real quotes flow, excluding the cases of individual approaches.
>> so called "floating spreads" do not exist in a demo account. so what is the point?
There are several brokerage companies with floating spreads on demo and real. Spreads change several times a minute, and these spreads are much closer to the market ones than the fixed values.
There is no need to panic at all. MetaTrader is an excellent platform! Use reputable brokerage companies that have more individual approach later than smaller ones. In the end, this is not necessarily the case (it depends on your system). If you trade relatively large amounts of profit, and with relatively large lots, there are unwritten rules in each brokerage company.
Banks, regulated companies, etc. on the MetaTrader platform in my practice have always come up with an individual approach because the profit was out of their pocket. The trades were opened and closed with pending orders, lasted for dozens of minutes and had average targets over 20 pips. We may listen or think about an inability of brokerage companies to timely place positions.
I don't know anything about the individual approaches on other platforms, because as a rule, there are no such rich opportunities for the analysis of the situation, as in MQL4. And where there's API it's still impossible to say anything definite whether there are manipulations or not. But, for example, shifts of quotes flow in the opposite direction to open positions can be detected only after a good analysis of quotes of several brokerage companies.
MetaTrader, as a platform, provides great opportunities both for traders and brokerage companies. Both good and bad. Both traders and brokerage companies can use so called cheat and custom approaches. I'm sure other platforms have such opportunities as well. But MetaTrader is by right and fact the most popular platform in the world.
Renat, I thank you personally and the whole MetaQuotes team for the excellent platform!
Opened a demo account
What is this exhibitionism for? If the Expert Advisor really works, then you should open a real account and cut the cabbage. If you can't use it on the real account, the demo account makes no sense either. Is this your 6th item form?
Why this exhibitionism? If the Expert Advisor really works, then you should open a real account and cut the cabbage. And if you can't use it on a real account, then the demo makes no sense at all. Is this your 6th item form?
It's just that the author wants to sell the councillor badly. And for real - what is he a fool?
Why this exhibitionism? If the Expert Advisor really works, then you should open a real account and cut the cabbage. And if you can't use it on a real account, then the demo makes no sense at all. Is this your form of 6th point?
I just want to see, with what deposit I would finish the Championship, if I had taken into account error 130.
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How in real life do you say? Hmmm...
If the EA is that good, it's hard to believe that you're not using it in real life, but just waiting for fortune in the championship - lucky or unlucky.
So, show it how it is - in real life. Show us your real brokerage accounts - how the Expert Advisor is really trading (in the brokerage company, not on the Championship), bringing you money during the Championship and now.
There are no "floating spreads" in demo accounts, so what is the point?
There is, but not for everyone.
I just want to see what deposit I would have ended the championship with if I had accounted for mistake 130.
It's not good to say untruths.
"Just want to see" is when you're alone with yourself. You're just exhibitionism, putting your stuff out there.
How in real life do you say? Hmmm...
If the EA is that good, it's hard to believe that you're not using it in real life, but just waiting for fortune in the championship - lucky or unlucky.
So, show it how it is - in real life. Show me your real brokerage account - how the Expert Advisor is really trading (in your brokerage company, not on the Championship), bringing you money during the Championship and now.
I was not waiting for the Championship, I knew in advance that I would be lucky. It is, of course, difficult to believe that I do not use it in real trading, so there is no need to believe it. It's even better in real life. And here, if you get in, you have to go all the way to the end.