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что за редчайшим исключением у всех все силы направлены на поиск входа.

It's not that in this EA all the effort is concentrated on finding the entrance, but rather the opposite, it finds the entrance, yes - this finding has its own price, but strange as it may seem, the way life is arranged, we always pay for everything, one way or another.

ZS: let's not even call him an adviser, that would do him a lot of credit, just a crude-green half-assed machine

 
Mischek писал (а) >>

To Alex or anyone else interested.

Long time ago I came up with an "exercise" for myself when it became very embarrassing that, with the rarest of exceptions, everyone is focused on finding an entry.

Depending on free time we write the entrance schedule 1-2 times a day for a month ahead, absolutely random.

Entry is mandatory, you can close it immediately.

At the first stage we learn to minimize losses.

But when in a couple of weeks or later the P.Factor goes up (and this is with random entries) radically changes the notion of take and stop.

We should follow the chart honestly of course.

You should follow the chart honestly, cheating will not help anyone. Your suggestion is not much different from practicing a not so radical strategy of sitting out losses. What needs to be seen in this to fundamentally change the perception of take and stops? What, what is there? Otherwise, it's just a story, a "follow me and it will open for you" type tale and no argument.

 
alexx_v писал (а) >>

In fact, give me some time to digest this hypothetical situation.

Oh, great.

alexx_v wrote (a) >>

Well, why the extremes, there could be more options than these two.

They're not extremes. It's an ideal.

The third (and final) option - "do nothing" in one way or another characterises our ignorance of the market.

And ideally the trade should change with every tick - tick - and you close some lots because the probability has decreased, tick - and you open because the probability has increased.

(And this "too frequent requests" is a temporary thing, like a computer time queue on EC1020).

But in order to trade like that we need to work on the formula of happiness:)

 

Oh, I think Idel is something utopian, don't you think? Especially in forex...

 
alexx_v писал (а) >>

Oh, I think Idel is something utopian, don't you think? Especially in forex.

!:))
I said a distant future without forex!:)

 
hypothetical situation digested - the answer is the same :)
 
Vita писал (а) >>

A PF on the plus side with an occasional entry can hold for quite a long time. Your suggestion is not much different from practicing a not-so-radical loss-strategy. What do you need to see to fundamentally change the perception of take and stops? What, what is there? Otherwise, it's just a story, a "follow me and it will open for you" type tale and no argument.

No overshooting.If the strategy says entry was totally unsuccessful = close immediately.

We see that the entry was late = we wait for the situation to change and do not give it to take and stop.

Entry was almost successful = we wait for the situation to change and do not give it to take and stop.

In general, we proceed from the fact that we do not have the right to open a monkey with our own strategy. ( Here we go again...)

We have a hold and close function.

Conclusion - holding and closing is not 5, not 10, but full 50% of success, and we should not give them at the mercy of myopic T and stops.

Only a postive recalculation of the probability of further moves.


It's just that when we open ourselves we are more likely to get the urge to set a take and stop...

 
alexx_v писал (а) >>
hypothetical situation digested - the answer is the same :)

Can you elaborate on that? >> Maybe I don't understand.

 

If we have only a switch "up/down" in this hypothetical situation, then with this switch we either open a long position, i.e. BUY, or close a losing deal short, SL BUY, or close a profitable short position, TP BUY, and with the switch "down" an opposite picture will be drawn

this is how intelligent the switch is :)

 

I guess I'm not much of an explainer:)

Here we are at the cottage. There's a box. A black one with a pokeball. There's no telling what's going on in the box.

We have to decide whether we're going up or down. We have a super monitor that shows everything (except the orders in the box).

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And the rate on the screen is kind of trying to pull up...

We looked at the sky and for some reason assumed that there was a Sell in the box. And we thought for some reason that it has been in minus for a long time and therefore we should StopLoss it quickly.

And then they looked at the beer that was sweating from waiting and decided that even if it was there, it was not in the red, and therefore it was not necessary to StopLoss.

And then Vitalik came and said that the success of the venture depends not on the presence of any orders and supposedly therefore the need to close something there,

but on a magic formula, which, if we have it, we can safely open... beer, but before the event, the formula must be connected to the pusher.

And if not, then poke all you want - there will only be a drain on the spread beer and only empty foam will remain in the account...

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The determining factor here is the recognition that SL and TP are essentially the same thing - a technical means of entering and exiting the market.