Another latest EA, unbeatable results ( awaiting criticism) - page 2

 
Dear solandr! Please explain one thing as a lesson for me. I have not understood the tester yet and I am worried by this fact. Can an EA look into the closing price of the high bar in the Strategy Tester at the beginning of it.
double eur_jpy_day_close=iClose("EURJPY",PERIOD_D1,0)
If so, it must be a precedent for self-deception in the first place. Or am I missing something?
 
VBAG:
If so, it turns out to be a precedent for self-delusion in the first place. Or am I missing something?

I explain the principle of tapping an expert for beginners. The tester does not simulate the operation of characters other than the one being tested. That is, if you test on EURUSD, applying to ANY period of this symbol only, everything will be modelled as it should be, i.e. you won't see any future. But if you access other symbols like EURJPY, USDJPY, etc., then all the bars of a higher period will be presented to you already formed. Thus, this "feature" of the tester allows you to see the future, which of course will not happen in real work. And thus a person who has decided to buy some ex4 file of an EA for money, based only on what the tester has drawn on his computer, risks falling into such a scam, which everyone who more or less mastered MT4 knows about. And then the next step is a technical matter. The Expert Advisor seller (trading robot) just needs to blur the too sharp performance of the source code by implementing some "brilliant idea" like "a super-duper leading indicator" and apply some marketing efforts to promote the product on various forums ("look what I have / what I have built" and "what can I say about my EA?"and everything is ready a great product for N-amount of dollars, which also has a "certificate of quality" :o)))))). So think with your head before you decide to buy a printing press for example for 10....1000 and even more quid! Further, in real trading such an Advisor on an infinite number of trades should show a result near zero (50% of successful and 50% of losing trades and still minus the spread paid for the trades). That is, of course, it will not wipe your deposit too quickly (only minus spread multiplied by the number of trades), but also it will not raise, because the result of its work is completely random. In response to all claims of a deceived loser or a buyer, the seller can answer very simply something like "the market has changed", "don't work at news time", "open trades only on Mondays and turn off the Expert Advisor on Fridays at midnight", "the Expert Advisor must be reoptimized weekly by the last month", etc. and similar standard excuses established in this field. All in all, you can add your own variants. That is, formally legal claims to the seller cannot be brought, because formally the seller does not know anything about the future and formally sells the product that has worked fine at historical quotes and supposedly a year ago the buyer would have lived in Hawaii ;o). That is, it is a well-tested scheme of baiting suckers, to which an inexperienced buyer of a cheap happiness for 10 quid is quite difficult to find claims because of his ignorance in these matters. ;o) Although, in principle, a man who is ready to part with his hard-earned money for a "printing press" is worth nothing more. The world is not changing - only the technology of fraud is changing (it's becoming more sophisticated)! In general, the meaning of my posts is that we must simply prohibit topics like this, associated with a discussion of naked charts without the source code itself and without a description of the idea! It is a waste of all forum members' time, which does not give anyone anything, well, maybe except advertising for those interested (I do not mean anyone personally!).
 

1 2006.11.02 07:45 sell 1 0.10 1.2753 1.2766 0. 0000 0. 00 200. 00
2 2006.11.02 08:00 close 1 0.10 1.2751 1.2766 0. 0000 2. 00 202. 00
3 2006.11.02 09:00 buy 2 0.10 1.2744 1.2731 0. 0000 0. 00 202. 00
4 2006.11.02 09:15 close 2 0.10 1.2756 1.2731 0. 0000 12. 00 214. 00
5 2006.11.03 09:45 buy 3 0.10 1.2773 1.2760 0. 0000 0. 00 214. 00
6 2006.11.03 10:00 close 3 0.10 1.2774 1.2760 0. 0000 1. 00 215. 00
7 2006.11.03 10:30 buy 4 0.10 1.2774 1.2761 0. 0000 0. 00 215. 00
8 2006.11.03 10:45 close 4 0.10 1.2775 1.2761 0. 0000 1. 00 216. 00
9 2006.11.03 11:45 sell 5 0.10 1.2772 1.2785 0. 0000 0. 00 216. 00
10 2006.11.03 12:00 close 5 0.10 1.2772 1.2785 0. 0000 0. 00 216. 00
11 2006.11.03 16:45 buy 6 0.10 1.2695 1.2682 0. 0000 0. 00 216. 00
12 2006.11.03 17:00 close 6 0.10 1.2703 1.2682 0. 0000 8. 00 224. 00
13 2006.11.06 10:30 sell 7 0.10 1.2698 1.2711 0. 0000 0. 00 224. 00
14 2006.11.06 10:45 close 7 0.10 1.2696 1.2711 0. 0000 2. 00 226. 00
15 2006.11.06 10:45 buy 8 0.10 1.2697 1.2684 0. 0000 0. 00 226. 00
16 2006.11.06 11:00 close 8 0.10 1.2701 1.2684 0. 0000 4. 00 230. 00
17 2006.11.07 02:15 buy 9 0.10 1.2732 1.2719 0. 0000 0. 00 230. 00
18 2006.11.07 02:30 close 9 0.10 1.2737 1.2719 0. 0000 5. 00 235. 00
19 2006.11.07 05:30 buy 10 0.10 1.2758 1.2745 0. 0000 0. 00 235. 00
20 2006.11.07 05:45 close 10 0.10 1.2765 1.2745 0. 0000 7. 00 242. 00
21 2006.11.07 14:15 buy 11 0.10 1.2758 1.2745 0. 0000 0. 00 242. 00
22 2006.11.07 14:30 close 11 0.10 1.2768 1.2745 0. 0000 10. 00 252. 00
23 2006.11.07 16:45 sell 12 0.10 1.2805 1.2818 0. 0000 0. 00 252. 00
24 2006.11.07 17:00 close 12 0.10 1.2802 1.2818 0. 0000 3. 00 255. 00
25 2006.11.07 20:15 sell 13 0.10 1.2797 1.2810 0. 0000 0. 00 255. 00
26 2006.11.07 20:30 close 13 0.10 1.2790 1.2810 0. 0000 7. 00 262. 00
27 2006.11.08 13:45 sell 14 0.10 1.2786 1.2799 0. 0000 0. 00 262. 00
28 2006.11.08 14:00 close 14 0.10 1.2783 1.2799 0. 0000 3. 00 265. 00
29 2006.11.08 15:00 sell 15 0.10 1.2771 1.2784 0. 0000 0. 00 265. 00
30 2006.11.08 15:15 close 15 0.10 1.2756 1.2784 0. 0000 15. 00 280. 00

.... etc.

And here is the code for this miracle:

int start(){
   if(Symbol()!="EURUSD"){
      Print("Работаю только на EURUSD");
      return(0);
   }
   
   double fo=iOpen("GBPUSD",0,0);
   double fc=iClose("GBPUSD",0,0);
   double fh=iHigh("GBPUSD",0,0);
   double fl=iLow("GBPUSD",0,0);   
   
   
   int bs=0,ss=0;
   
   if(fc-fo>15*Point && fo-fl<Point*10)bs=1;  
   if(fo-fc>15*Point && fh-fo<Point*10)ss=1;   
   
   if(OrdersTotal()==0){
      if(1==bs){
         OrderSend(Symbol(),OP_BUY,0.1,NormalizeDouble(Ask,Digits),0,NormalizeDouble(Ask-Point*13,Digits),0/*NormalizeDouble(Ask+Point*10,Digits)*/,NULL,0,0,CLR_NONE);      
      }
      if(1==ss){
         OrderSend(Symbol(),OP_SELL,0.1,NormalizeDouble(Bid,Digits),0,NormalizeDouble(Bid+Point*13,Digits),0/*NormalizeDouble(Bid-Point*10,Digits)*/,NULL,0,0,CLR_NONE);         
      }
   }
   
               for(int i=0;i<OrdersTotal();i++){
               if(OrderSelect(i,SELECT_BY_POS,MODE_TRADES)){
                  if(OrderSymbol()==Symbol()){
                     if(OrderType()==OP_BUY){
                        if(Time[0]>OrderOpenTime())OrderClose(OrderTicket(),OrderLots(),Bid,0,CLR_NONE);
                     }
                     if(OrderType()==OP_SELL){
                        if(Time[0]>OrderOpenTime())OrderClose(OrderTicket(),OrderLots(),Ask,0,CLR_NONE);
                     
                     }
                  }
               }
               }
 
solandr:
VBAG:
If so, this turns out to be a precedent primarily for self-delusion. Or am I missing something?

I explain the principle of tapping an expert for beginners. The tester does not simulate the operation of characters other than the one being tested.
Thank you! That's funny. Didn't know about this "feature". I'm in the market since 1999 and I'm very negative about buying a pig in a poke, and buying grains and other people's ideas in general. I absolutely agree with you. You've got a whole great article! It's great!!!
 
Integer:

And here is the code for this miracle:

Your code looks more intelligent - it's harder to suspect cheating because the trades are scattered over time - less periodic than in my code, although the essence has not changed - "peeking into the future using a different symbol". You probably spent 10 minutes more on it than I did on mine :o))))))))
 
Jhonny:

Eh, solandr, why did you post the code, you might as well make a world financial crisis :)))))

But seriously some of the ideas (or more exactly how I understood them) in my EA were discussed in this topic https://www.mql5.com/ru/forum/50458, namely: Approximate-confidence interval->Open from bounds, but they have been strongly modified and simplified, I won't give out the code by the agreement of that topic. I don't have obvious errors such as in your example, and I don't really want to discuss it, I see the problems myself, and I posted the picture just for fun, like you do.


You see, people have written many smart and enlightening things.

But unlike your experts, my system really works and does not look far into the future.

I have already tweaked it, made some adjustments and the profitability has increased, besides the drawdown has decreased1 .

As for your grail, do you know why the curve at the end has become horizontal instead of growing, because the real quotes are not what the Center for Histories gives.

What about the attacks against my Expert Advisor, saying that it gives 40 pips a month, do you not know how to count? 40 pips a month he gives from 50 deposits!!!!

So with 500 deposits he will give 400 pips a month!!!!

I am amazed at the illiteracy of forum participants, if you want to criticize, you should at least finish school at first!!!!

 
Jhonny:

Eh, solandr, why did you post the code, you might as well make a world financial crisis :)))))

But seriously some of the ideas (or more exactly how I understood them) in my EA were discussed in this topic https://www.mql5.com/ru/forum/50458, namely: Approximate-confidence interval->Open from bounds, but they have been strongly modified and simplified, I won't give out the code by the agreement of that topic. I don't have obvious errors such as in your example, and I don't really want to discuss it, I see the problems myself, and the picture is posted for fun, like you do.


You see, people have written many smart and enlightening things.

But unlike your experts, my system really works and does not look far into the future.

I have already tweaked it, made some adjustments and the profitability has increased, besides the drawdown has decreased1 .

As for your grail, do you know why the curve at the end has become horizontal instead of growing, because the real quotes are not what the Center for Histories gives.

What about the attacks against my Expert Advisor, saying that it gives 40 pips a month, do you not know how to count? 40 pips a month he gives from 50 deposits!!!!

So with 500 deposits he will give 400 pips a month!!!!

I am amazed at the illiteracy of forum participants, if you want to criticize, you should at least finish school at first!!!!

 

Ponya you say. let's discuss the code, present it here. and tell the idea, but you understand. the idea did not come by accident. the person worked on it, and what to give it away for free?

ok i agree, who will give money not for an adviser but for an idea!!!!

You get the money, I'll give you the idea!!!!

And the proof that it works is a chart, what is bad?

 
ufkef:

And the proof that it works is in the timetable, which is bad?


Apparently my posts were completely meaningless to you. ...
 

Удивляюсь очередной раз безграмотности участноков форума, для того что бы критиковать. сначало хотя бы школу закончите!!!!

Some have not only finished school, but have also managed to defend their dissertations ;o)))))