NATURAL INTELLIGENCE as the basis of a trading system - page 19
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"coincidence, coincidence, I don't believe it," that's all your deep-seated arguments? You know all about dreams, probability theory and even the subconscious. But you don't have enough courage or logic to make another step and understand that if information comes to you through subconsciousness, which your brain cannot get (for example, about future), then a simple phrase "it is subconscious" solves nothing and does not explain. The subconscious mind is only a receiver, and the most important thing is the information, and even more importantly its source.
..I'll give you just one such fact - the myrrh. ...The phenomenon has been around as long as Christianity has existed...
First, elementary particles will emerge, which interact in electromagnetic and gravitational fields to form atoms. Then atoms will start to form molecules. This is already a chemical interaction. To a certain extent, it is based on electromagnetic interaction, but it is not reduced to it. If I understand correctly, this is how the emergence of chemical properties of substances at this level of matter existence is manifested. Then organics and inorganics appear. Complex organics may already have biological properties. A living cell appears, then plants, then animals, then man, society and so on. And on every level of matter existence it has its own quanta of existence and its own, quite specific and not reducible to simpler ones, ways of interaction between them.
Wonderful, wonderful!:)
And here I have highlighted only the paragraph on which I want to say a little bit too.
Once upon a time, in my early youth, I wondered "What is life?" (I did not know then that there was F. Engels' definition of "Life is the mode of existence of protein bodies") To my surprise, it turned out that the answer is not easy. The question remained unanswered for me, but I kept looking for an answer. Some time later I got something like this: "An object is alive, if at least one process with decreasing entropy is going on in it". The definition came out a little bit sloppy, but I was glad, as it seemed to me then, that I managed to identify the principal characteristic of living - entropy.
I reasoned along these lines. A mountain, for example, or furniture - they are not alive. Left unattended they will sooner or later cease to exist, because entropy in such objects grows spontaneously (?!). But plants (including their parents - a seed or a stub) do not spontaneously disintegrate, moreover, in spring a tomato or a tree grows from a seed. Etropy in such objects tries to manifest itself, interferes with the growth of plants, but it is a property of living things to be able to release energy (and where does it come from?) aimed at lowering entropy.
My joy was short-lived, because to fully "understand" the essence of life I needed to understand entropy. What is this ... entropy? Why does it always interfere with life? Where does it come from? What moral right does it have? Who sanctioned her for such actions? The first time "Who?" came out, I was struck, confused, bewildered... Every newly transient knowledge always takes us by surprise...
Later I kept looking and gradually, if not a whole righteous picture, then a model which is quite close to reality appeared. It turned out that no closed system can know itself. The outer system knows everything about the inner, while the inner knows nothing about the outer. And soon enough it turned out that entropy is a manifestation of the outer system, one of the ways of its influence on the inner one. And then many things fell into place: Life is incomprehensible within the limitations of any inner system, but it is dictated from above...:)
Later I discovered new details of life, but that's not what I'm talking about now.
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Life is a given, a mystery, a law. We can only experience life, but not comprehend it. I guess everybody has seen The Matrix, there's a good line: "Nobody can tell you that you're in love, you just know it".
All this is to say that in order to sustain the very fact of life you need an influence from outside (from above). This means that a living cell cannot spontaneously arise from a complex organic matter:) (just as a cell does not spontaneously create a human being or a society, just as fields do not spontaneously create from nothing and atoms do not spontaneously create from fields).
And gradually it comes to you ("You just know it") that there is nothing but life in nature:)
Wonderful, wonderful!:)
And here I have highlighted only the paragraph on which I want to say a little too...
Once upon a time, in my early youth, I wondered "What is life?" (I did not know then that there was a definition by F. Engels "Life is the mode of existence of protein bodies"). To my surprise, it turned out that the answer is not easy. The question remained unanswered for me, but I kept looking for an answer. Some time later I got something like this: "An object is alive, if at least one process with decreasing entropy is going on in it". The definition came out a little bit sloppy, but I was glad, as it seemed to me then, that I managed to identify the principal characteristic of living - entropy.
I reasoned along these lines. A mountain, for example, or furniture - they are not alive. Left unattended they will sooner or later cease to exist, because entropy in such objects grows spontaneously (?!). But plants (including their parents - a seed or a stub) do not spontaneously disintegrate, moreover, in spring a tomato or a tree grows from a seed. Etropy in such objects tries to manifest itself, interferes with the growth of plants, but it is a property of living things to be able to release energy (and where does it come from?) aimed at lowering entropy.
My joy was short-lived, because to fully "understand" the essence of life I needed to understand entropy. What is this ... entropy? Why does it always interfere with life? Where does it come from? What moral right does it have? Who sanctioned her for such actions? The first time "Who?" came out, I was struck, confused, bewildered... Every newly transient knowledge always takes us by surprise...
Later I kept on searching and gradually, if not a whole righteous picture, then a model close enough to reality emerged. It turned out that no closed system can know itself. The outer system knows everything about the inner, while the inner knows nothing about the outer. And soon enough it turned out that entropy is a manifestation of the outer system, one of the ways of its influence on the inner one. And then many things fell into place: Life is incomprehensible within the limitations of any inner system, but it is dictated from above...:)
Later I discovered new details of life, but that's not what I'm talking about now.
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Life is a given, a mystery, a law. We can only experience life, but not comprehend it. I guess everybody has seen The Matrix, there's a good line: "Nobody can tell you that you're in love, you just know it".
All this is to say that in order to sustain the very fact of life you need an influence from outside (from above). This means that a living cell cannot spontaneously arise from a complex organic matter:) (just as a cell does not spontaneously create a human being or a society, just as fields do not spontaneously create from nothing and atoms do not spontaneously create from fields).
And gradually it comes to you ("You just know it") that there is nothing but life in nature:)
On the other hand, the phenomenon as such shouldn't have existed before Christianity? The synchrophasotron as a phenomenon, too, could probably have appeared only after the creation of STO...
P.S. And in general everyone has his own special reasons for "conversion". Personally, I had something like this: I just saw Axiom 1 of Scientology - and died of admiration. I have already given the approximate text of axiom here some pages earlier in English. Why died? Because the seed fell on the prepared soil of technical education: "statics has no mass, no wavelength, no position in space and time, etc.". The real reasons were related to science, i.e. far from religion, and corresponded to the level of reality I was capable of perceiving.
Judging by your continuing demands for facts and evidence, documentaries, publications, eyewitness accounts, books by those who have been down this road and learned everything from their experience - all these are lies to you, falsehoods. Whether you say so or not, you do not believe it. What facts and evidence do you demand then? I've been asking that from the start, but I haven't heard the answer. But now I understand your mood and that answer is irrelevant.
A thinking person does not need a lot of facts, one meaningful fact is enough. I gave him one. If you are bummed to look on the internet and find relevant evidence, that's your problem. If you need more proof, that's your problem too. Well, if you don't need anything at all, that's definitely your problem.
Unfortunately, in your statements you never got beyond the vulgar atheism of Soviet times. Talking on this level is boring to me.
Timbo, you are deeply, deeply mistaken, it's not sunflower oil, it's something else, and that sunflower oil smells too much like seeds :-) But I don't think that makes you have a problem.
P.S. And in general everyone has his own special reasons for "conversion". Personally I had something like this: I just saw Axiom 1 of Scientology - and died of admiration. I have already given an approximate text of the axiom here a few pages earlier in English. Why died? Because the seed fell on the prepared soil of technical education: "statics has no mass, wavelength, position in space and time, etc.". The real reasons had to do with science, i.e. far from religion, and were consistent with the level of reality I was capable of perceiving.
Mine were different. At one time I took up Taoist practices, and when I got acquainted with what is called the "Taoist way", I saw to my surprise that Taoists see immortality as the practical goal of their way. Not of humanity, but of man. And not in figurative, but in very direct sense of this word. But of course it is not about immortality of the material body of man. :-)
So, when I saw this, I was dumbfounded for a while (a very long time). Taoism has been around for about 8,000 years, the content of the Taoist path is in no way confined to faith, concepts, rituals, etc. It is essentially a practical path. Expansion of consciousness and comprehension of the world in it is a gradual process, which occurs as man harmonizes and perfects himself, including the physical. So one comprehends the truth for oneself, through one's own experience. I have great confidence in the experience of thousands of years of Taoists, but as a physicist I could not take anything for granted. However, it was enough for me to realize that I don't know everything about this world. So I started digging.
Timbo, you are deeply, deeply mistaken, it's not sunflower oil, it's something else, and that sunflower oil smells too much like seeds :-) But I don't think that makes you have a problem.
By the way, that miro that looks like butter tastes like apples. Have you ever seen butter made from apples ?