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San Sanych, if this is about my previous post, I'll answer it. )) In your opinion, what are middlemen for? I'm talking about real middlemen, not just any impostors.
To do your work more effectively and for less money. Do you agree?
Any church, I emphasize - any church claims to be a mediator between God, Heaven, the Universe, Stonehenge, Totems, Spirits, etc. (pick one). The church indirectly charges you for this. Otherwise it will starve to death, as rarely do monasteries live on self-sufficiency. The standard church, as a system, produces nothing.
Further, at whose expense does the church brethren feed? At the expense of weak people. I once talked to a rector of a church, a man without fanaticism, calm and intelligent, which is rare. He said people were looking for spiritual refuge in me.
That is, he and his temple play the role of a kind of appeasement for those who have lost their spirits. And that's good. Let them go to church and pray, rather than in despair blow themselves up in public places.
Yes, I hate to say it, but San Sanych, the question is urgent, people are waiting for an answer. After all, gambling is a sin. How can you, a man of faith, engage in such a vicious business?
There can only be one justification - a constant leakage.)
Yep.
The Bible is not just a religious text. The New Testament is almost 2000 years old and for all people, believers and non-believers alike, it is a literary work that lays out the moral foundations of human life. One view.
I understand you refer to yourself as an educated person, yet you demonstrate here, along with others, a slumbering ignorance of knowledge of this greatest of literary monuments.
From the specific post.
Any church, I stress - any church, claims to mediate between God
For Orthodoxy it is not, for Catholics it is. So not any church. I think in Muslims the minister of religion is not a mediator.
In orthodoxy, a priest helps believers understand the meaning of religious texts, rituals... I am more than sure that if you read the New Testament (if you haven't) you wouldn't understand anything what is written there. The interpretation of these texts is taught for 5 years, then these people help other people. And believing people have a different value system. For example all of you cannot understand why none of the believers are not interested in the Patriarch's watch or not. Not interested. Because it is a matter of the Patriarch and he answers only to God, and every believer is responsible only for his sins.
PS.
After all, gambling is a sin.
To me the market is not a casino. The marketplace is an ideal object for building mathematical models. Considering that the development of mathematics in the 20th century (unlike previous centuries) was driven by the needs of economics, it is a worthwhile toy to exercise in this field, to write articles, books, and most importantly an MTS that converts random input into deterministic output. It does not get boring. So you have the wrong idea about me here.
PSPS.
I am not a preacher and I am not going to convert anyone.
But I draw your attention once again: Orthodoxy, first of all, is a system of moral values. And these values are the basis of the Russian world, on which it has been growing for more than 1000 years. If you really want to expand your educational level, without any faith, prayers or church attendance, then I recommend the book of the Patriarch, in which he explains the main points of the Bible verse by verse. It is impossible to do it on your own. Whether or not you will become a believer after that is not known, but the fact that you will stop talking nonsense on forums is for sure. And at the same time you will understand the meaning of words and actions of hundreds of millions of people.
What is the opium of the people?
Is morality and ethics an opium?
I used to think that for you personally it wasn't the opium
Is morality and ethics an opium?
I used to think that, for you personally, it wasn't opium
...
For Orthodoxy it is not, for Catholics it is. So it's not any of them. I think in Muslims the minister of religion is not a mediator.
...
Yep.
The Bible is not just a religious text. The New Testament is almost 2,000 years old and for all people, believers and non-believers, it is a literary work setting out the moral foundations of human life. One view.
I understand you refer to yourself as an educated person, yet you demonstrate here, along with others, a slumbering ignorance of knowledge of this greatest of literary monuments.
From the specific post.
Any church, I stress - any church, claims to mediate between God
For Orthodoxy it is not, for Catholics it is. So not any church. I think in Muslims the minister of religion is not a mediator.
In orthodoxy, a priest helps believers understand the meaning of religious texts, rituals... I am more than sure that if you read the New Testament (if you haven't) you wouldn't understand anything what is written there. The interpretation of these texts is taught for 5 years, then these people help other people. And believing people have a different value system. For example all of you cannot understand why none of the believers are not interested in the Patriarch's watch or not. Not interested. Because it is a matter of the Patriarch and he answers only to God, and every believer is responsible only for his sins.
PS.
After all, gambling is a sin.
To me the market is not a casino. The marketplace is an ideal object for building mathematical models. Considering that the development of mathematics in the 20th century (unlike in previous centuries) was driven by the needs of economics, it is a worthwhile toy to practice in this field, to write articles, books, and most importantly an MTS that converts random input into deterministic output. It does not get boring. So you have the wrong idea about me here.
PSPS.
I am not a preacher and I am not going to convert anyone.
But I draw your attention once again: Orthodoxy, first of all, is a system of moral values. And these values are the basis of the Russian world, on which it has been growing for more than 1000 years. If you really want to expand your educational level, without any faith, prayers or church attendance, then I recommend the book of the Patriarch, in which he explains the main points of the Bible verse by verse. It is impossible to do it on your own. Whether or not you will become a believer after that is not known, but the fact that you will stop talking nonsense on forums is for sure. And at the same time you will understand the meaning of words and actions of hundreds of millions of people.
It's clear enough.
Yes, those were tough times. In those days slavery was a norm of life and coexisted quite peacefully with religion, and slavery was not condemned by religion, because it was normal and quite ethical.
But moral and moral principles have changed and now "require" an "interpretation.
Although what is there to interpret, it is written clearly, clearly, quite unambiguously. But it does not correspond to normal human morality.
Oh yes, to release a slave after 6 years of slavery, the highest degree of kindness, the highest moral principles.
I mean, the Bible clearly says - And went to war... as the Lord commanded.
Not only war and murder are not condemned, God himself calls for it!
СанСаныч Фоменко:
The interpretation of these texts is taught for 5 years...
What about the murders of innocent children and how to "interpret" it? Probably very difficult, you have to study for 5 years.
Obviously, for religion, killing children was not immoral. What are children guilty of? Growing up and taking revenge? Yes, that's exactly what they are guilty of.
Believers are when they realize something goes against their beliefs.
They do not see, they do not hear, and they do not want to see it; they are not interested in it, because it immediately destroys their basic principles.
Silence is a convenient way of avoiding an answer. It's usually the uncomfortable ones that get silenced.
If the patriarch himself resides in sin, then who is the moral compass?
But then what the Patriarch "says" and "interprets" is not accepted.
Yeah.
I understand you refer to yourself as an educated person, but you and others here demonstrate a dense ignorance of this greatest of literary monuments.The fact is that educated people often know the Bible better than most believers.
It's clear enough.
Yes, those were tough times. In those days, slavery was a norm of life and coexisted quite peacefully with religion, and religion did not condemn slavery, because it was normal and quite ethical.
But moral and moral principles have changed and now "require" an "interpretation.
Although what is there to interpret, it is written clearly, clearly, quite unambiguously. But it does not correspond to normal human morality.
Oh yes, to release a slave after 6 years of slavery, the highest degree of kindness, the highest moral principles.
I mean, the Bible clearly says - And went to war... as the Lord commanded.
Not only war and murder are not condemned, God himself calls for it!
What about the murders of innocent children and how to "interpret" it? Probably very difficult, you have to study for 5 years.
Obviously, for religion, killing children was not immoral. What are children guilty of? Growing up and taking revenge? Yes, that's exactly what they are guilty of.
Believers are when they realize something goes against their beliefs.
They do not see, do not hear, and do not want to see it, they are not interested, they have no reasonable answer, because it immediately destroys their basic principles.
Silence is a convenient way of avoiding an answer. It's usually the uncomfortable ones that get silenced.
If the patriarch himself resides in sin, then who is the moral compass?
But then what the Patriarch "says" and "interprets" is not accepted.
The fact is that educated people often know the Bible better than most believers.
Yes, they do. That's a decent answer. Took your opponent by surprise.) Five years of interpretive training won't be enough to disprove it.) Personally, I think it would be better if there were no religions. Different religions only lead to religious wars, distrust and suspicion of one religion towards the other. The adherents of religious doctrines always try to convince everybody that their religion is the right one and the others are wrong. The colonizers brought their religion to the natives with the sword and fire. And modern Wahhabists defend the rightness of their teachings with terrorist acts.
Yes, it is. That's a decent answer. You've knocked your opponent's socks off.) Five years of interpretive training won't be enough to disprove that.) Personally, I think it would be better if there were no religions. Different religions only lead to religious wars, distrust and suspicion of one religion towards the other. The adherents of religious doctrines always try to convince everybody that their religion is the right one and the others are wrong. The colonizers brought their religion to the natives with the sword and fire. And modern Wahhabists defend the rightness of their teachings with terrorist acts.