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I was here for long time here, i have experience to trade with purhcased on MQL site and outside it EAs and my conclusion, that this is very, but very dificult to find EA, that work as stand alone profitable.
I don't have now any EA , that i fill safe to use for loaned money.
In general, I think, all strategyes or tests shows >20% DD are not safe.
I think, if one is successefuly trading on Forex, it has some method to identify the good entry and exit points. I don't know , why this one can't to define algoritmic way to do the same - but it is the fact, that it is hard to find the netto algorithmic system, to do this alone.
I lost here a lot of money and now i think, if somethink will work for me, is only using semi atumatic way - i would like to select the entry and exit points by my self, but let to EA execute this. To make this work efficienlty, I have coded, simple Trading pannel accomplished with some algoritmic logic.
My VPS service: https://www.myforexvps.com/billing/aff.php?aff=301 and i am recommending it.
For 10$ montly you will get VSP good for 1-2 Highly loaded MT5 terminals located on Holand server with normal ping, reliable server and fast support respond - please don't expect ultra fast ping connection for these money, but be advised, that the broker orders execution time typically several times longer, than this ping time and it is the main contributor on slipages and prices and not the the ping time itself.
I don't have now any EA , that i fill safe to use for loaned money.
In general, I think, all strategyes or tests shows >20% DD are not safe.
I think, if one is successefuly trading on Forex, it has some method to identify the good entry and exit points. I don't know , why this one can't to define algoritmic way to do the same - but it is the fact, that it is hard to find the netto algorithmic system, to do this alone.
I lost here a lot of money and now i think, if somethink will work for me, is only using semi atumatic way - i would like to select the entry and exit points by my self, but let to EA execute this. To make this work efficienlty, I have coded, simple Trading pannel accomplished with some algoritmic logic.
My VPS service: https://www.myforexvps.com/billing/aff.php?aff=301 and i am recommending it.
For 10$ montly you will get VSP good for 1-2 Highly loaded MT5 terminals located on Holand server with normal ping, reliable server and fast support respond - please don't expect ultra fast ping connection for these money, but be advised, that the broker orders execution time typically several times longer, than this ping time and it is the main contributor on slipages and prices and not the the ping time itself.
Sergey Genikhov
Do you know that ????
Is it possible to filter out the trades with high slippage on ECN MARKET EXECUTION accounts ????
Можно ли фильтровать сделки по проскальзованию на счетах ECN MARKET EXECUTION?
Back ground:
There are many EA have an input parameters called 'slippage'. The idea behind, is to prevent the execution of order, when the requested quote will be different from provided by broker for the value exceeded this parameter.
THE ANSWER IS NO, the price for MARKET EXECUTION to be filled at the best available price at this moment.
I don't know how it is work for Instant execution account.
Ответ НЕТ! Смысл в том, что на счетах Market Execution брокеры не смотрят на параметер Slippage. При исполнение приказа, вы должны получить максимально близкую к заявке котировку, независимо от параметра проскальзывания.
Which of EA functionality is impacted from this fact:
1. SL and TP execution
2. Enter to the market
3. Closing the position by trailing stop
What are the brokers tell about that:
Pererstone respond:
".......The input parameter for slippage will not apply with us as we are an ECN broker and all orders are sent to our liquidity providers with Market execution to be filled at the best available price. "
TickMill respond:
"....the slippage parameter is most likely used with Instant Execution. With Market Execution (as we have) your order is filled by our LPs. Between placing your order and execution of it the price can change, both in your favor or not. There is no way to control the slippage with Market Execution."
Is it possible to filter out the trades with high slippage on ECN MARKET EXECUTION accounts ????
Можно ли фильтровать сделки по проскальзованию на счетах ECN MARKET EXECUTION?
Back ground:
There are many EA have an input parameters called 'slippage'. The idea behind, is to prevent the execution of order, when the requested quote will be different from provided by broker for the value exceeded this parameter.
THE ANSWER IS NO, the price for MARKET EXECUTION to be filled at the best available price at this moment.
I don't know how it is work for Instant execution account.
Ответ НЕТ! Смысл в том, что на счетах Market Execution брокеры не смотрят на параметер Slippage. При исполнение приказа, вы должны получить максимально близкую к заявке котировку, независимо от параметра проскальзывания.
Which of EA functionality is impacted from this fact:
1. SL and TP execution
2. Enter to the market
3. Closing the position by trailing stop
What are the brokers tell about that:
Pererstone respond:
".......The input parameter for slippage will not apply with us as we are an ECN broker and all orders are sent to our liquidity providers with Market execution to be filled at the best available price. "
TickMill respond:
"....the slippage parameter is most likely used with Instant Execution. With Market Execution (as we have) your order is filled by our LPs. Between placing your order and execution of it the price can change, both in your favor or not. There is no way to control the slippage with Market Execution."
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Sergey Genikhov
2015.10.27
Thank u, good one, but its make me think that all brokers here not real ecn. Because all of them works with small lots like 0.01.
Sergey Genikhov
Могут ли быть проскальзывания при использовании отлпженных приказов - Да,б..ть могут. Сам столкнулся , причем не проскальзывания, а целый заработок ускальзает.
А вот статья , обьясняющая, что к чему. Получается спред, не главный фактор.
https://www.exness.com/intl/ru/execution/ecn_pending_orders
А вот статья , обьясняющая, что к чему. Получается спред, не главный фактор.
https://www.exness.com/intl/ru/execution/ecn_pending_orders
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