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It's a mess again
of course, and combinatorics and probability theory. And to be honest, informatics is the most vague science in terms of content, there is also such a subject at school, and music. So music in the form of notes is information, and strumming on the guitar is a physical process))))))
What is there of physical processes. The main thing is not in what to measure, it is an assumption, we decided that we measure in hertz, volts, amperes, but what to measure and how to confirm. So somehow I don't know what to measure the information in War and Peace)))). Counting words is not a pure experiment)))))
Valeriy Yastremskiy #:
... strumming on the guitar is a physical process))))))
Hi, Valery! Man, I couldn't resist. No, it's creativity!!! )
With respect, Vladimir.
are NON-MATERIAL objects, they don't need to be physically measured.
Oh, my goodness, the princess is in shock.
How did you invent lasers?
Well, you've answered it yourself, they're not material objects. Okay, and not a field of any kind. Then what does it have to do with physical processes? Wiki's no authority. ))))) For lasers it's enough to use ordinary devices. Ordinary polameters) Back then they didn't know that information had to do with physics.
Measure of Information is a concept describing non-physical entities. That's why wiki is wrong))))
There is only one idea that information transfer is always different physical or chemical processes. A parcel carrier carries mail physically. Well it's hard to disagree with that. But it has nothing to do with the amount of information he carries)))))
And so yes, to transfer information, you need different processes, reading is also a physical-chemical-optical process, and it is the transfer of information.
No argument there))))
I like the definition, infa, is a reflection of the world ... )))))information can be presented in a compressed form or in the form of an algorithm and occupy less space on a physical medium than if the information directly describes an object or phenomenon. this is how many compression algorithms are implemented and used everywhere in vector graphics, procedural graphics, OOP is also an example of information compression)))))
Hi, Valery! Man, I couldn't resist. No, it's creativity!!! )
Regards, Vladimir.
Well here exactly the result of the physical process of transferring information in the form of music depends on the observer))))
Well, you've answered it yourself, they're not material objects. Okay, and not a field of any kind. Then what does it have to do with physical processes? Wiki's no authority. ))))) For lasers it's enough to use ordinary devices. Ordinary polameters) Back then they didn't know that information had to do with physics.
Measure of Information is a concept describing non-physical entities. That's why wiki is wrong))))
There is only one idea that information transfer is always different physical or chemical processes. A parcel carrier carries mail physically. Well it's hard to disagree with that. But it has nothing to do with the amount of information he carries)))))
And so yes, to transfer information, you need different processes, reading is also a physical-chemical-optical process, and it is the transfer of information.
No argument there))))
I like the definition, infa, is a reflection of the world .... )))))You're so confused, I don't know how to respond. It's all going to be meaningless.
There's probably some specialised literature for that.information can be presented in a compressed form or in the form of an algorithm and occupy less space on a physical medium than if the information directly describes an object or phenomenon. this is how many compression algorithms are implemented and used everywhere in vector graphics, procedural graphics, OOP is also an example of information compression)))))
Well it's complicated, let's have simpler examples. Unicellular, for it the impact is information, and from the type and strength of the impact it acts to feed and reproduce.
In what information is measured in this case. And what it's measured in. )))) War and peace is already a higher matter))))))
There is only one thought, that the transfer of information is always a different physical or chemical process. A courier carries mail physically. Well, it's hard to disagree with that. But it has nothing to do with the amount of information he carries)))))
Well and proton and neutron in the nucleus how do they keep in touch (within the strong interaction)? That's right, they exchange some mesons. What is not a form of information transfer? All our abstract informatics is simplified and at first sight does not describe matter. For example, in it the minimum unit of information is a bit (0,1), but in the physical world, if it is a quark, it is a unit that takes as many as 12 values. And the "maths" of their combination and interaction there is more complicated, of course. That is, our human conceptual apparatus is not very suitable for describing this more complex type of information. But, is this a reason to be scared and hide from this idea in the bushes?
And I remind you that there were no theses here that information is material. On the contrary, matter is some form of information (at the level of all basic units of matter). Which, with increasing complexity and increasing level of order, leads to the forms of reality we observe (in which we already observe and use primitive forms of "information").
PS Here is a good example: in the sandbox toy Minecraft, which has a primitive system of interaction between blocks, allowing to create an analogue of "electricity" and the corresponding "circuitry", we made our own Minecraft (primitive, of course, but still, check out the idea).
You're so confused, I don't know how to respond. It's going to be pointless.
There must be some special literature for that.No, I'm reading Panchin.) Ни в коем разе не пытаюсь разуверить) Просто согласен с ним, у него из последних, Вера это ошибка логики.
But it is one of the holy mistakes, so I don't even try))))))
Well, how do the proton and neutron in the nucleus maintain communication (within the framework of the strong interaction)? That's right, they exchange some mesons. What is not a form of information transfer? All our abstract informatics is simplified and at first sight does not describe matter. For example, in it the minimum unit of information is a bit (0,1), but in the physical world, if it is a quark, it is a unit that takes as many as 12 values. And the "maths" of their combination and interaction there is more complicated, of course. That is, our human conceptual apparatus is not very suitable for describing this more complex type of information. But, is this a reason to be scared and hide from this idea in the bushes?
And I remind you that there were no theses here that information is material. On the contrary, matter is some form of information (at the level of all basic units of matter). Which, when complicating and increasing the level of order, leads to the forms of reality we observe (in which we already observe and use primitive forms of "information").
PS Here is a good example: in the sandbox toy Minecraft, which has a primitive system of interaction between blocks, allowing to create an analogue of "electricity" and the corresponding "circuitry", we made our own Minecraft (primitive, of course, but still, check out the idea).
Well, I'm not contradicting you. There was a thesis that the transfer of information is a certain physical process, strictly defined. Logic bug, it is definitely always a process, but they are different processes, and definitely not defined.