The order, timing and potential of the trading process - page 10

 
I have decided for myself that if there is a signal on a pair, I open. I open to compensate for the deal on another pair, or against it - it does not matter. The signal is there, I have calculated it, there is enough money to support it, that is all. One of the trades will probably be right. Or maybe not. I do not know :)
 
Aleksei Stepanenko #:
I decided for myself that if there is a signal on a pair - I open. I open to compensate for the trades on another pair, or against - it is the same. The signal is there, I have calculated it, I have enough money to maintain it, and that's it. One of the trades will probably be right. Or maybe not. I do not know :)

It is also possible to open differently directed trades on the same pair at the same time using signals from different TFs - no problem.

But in this case: 1) there is no set of TFs, only one is traded 2) (as far as I understand it) the indicator always gives a signal: there are no filters or intermediate states, i.e. deals are always opened for each instrument. As a result, we get disorder and vacillation in the form of a pile of counter positions, senselessly involved margin and constant unnecessary costs.

 
vladavd #:

It is also possible to open differently directed trades on the same pair simultaneously using signals from different TFs - no problem.

But in this case: 1) there is no set of TFs, only one is traded 2) (as far as I understand it) the indicator always gives a signal: there are no filters or intermediate states, i.e. deals are always opened for each instrument. As a result, we get disorder and vacillation in the form of a pile of counter positions, senselessly involved margin and constant unnecessary costs.

thereis always 1 trade open for each instrument.

 
Dmytryi Nazarchuk #:

Delusion 2

Some kids think that portfolio trading is about necessarily opening and closing orders on all assets at the same time. In reality, portfolio trading involves constant changes in lots, positions and assets.

Truly

 
Yousufkhodja Sultonov #:

there is always 1 trade open for each instrument.

It doesn't matter, the point is that a trade on one instrument can contradict a trade on another. Show a list of open positions and we'll see.

 
vladavd #:

Never mind, the point is that a trade in one instrument can conflict with a trade in another. Show a list of open positions, let's see.

2021.08.09 02:00 Sell 0.06 AUDCAD 0.9215 0.9255 -19.41
2021.08.09 01:57 Sell 0.06 AUDCHF 0.6709 0.6884 -114.20
2021.10.19 17:09 Buy 0.06 AUDJPY 85.40 85.05 -18.47
2021.10.14 18:18 Buy 0.06 AUDNZD 1.0562 1.0461 -43.30
2021.08.09 02:06 Sell 0.06 AUDUSD 0.7329 0.7486 -94.20
2021.10.14 18:19 Buy 0.06 CADCHF 0.7466 0.7434 -20.89
2021.10.14 18:17 Buy 0.06 CADJPY 91.82 91.94 6.33
2021.10.14 18:17 Buy 0.06 CHFJPY 123.02 123.63 32.20
2021.10.15 00:00 Sell 0.06 EURAUD 1.5635 1.5507 57.50
2021.10.08 04:19 Sell 0.06 EURCAD 1.4481 1.4345 66.00
2021.08.09 02:06 Sell 0.06 EURCHF 1.0754 1.0668 56.12
2021.08.09 02:00 Sell 0.06 EURGBP 0.8470 0.8438 26.41
2021.08.10 00:00 Sell 0.06 EURJPY 129.49 131.91 -127.71
2021.10.18 00:00 Sell 0.06 EURNZD 1.6365 1.6242 52.77
2021.10.08 17:37 Sell 0.06 EURSGD 1.5668 1.5642 11.58
2021.10.08 03:58 Sell 0.06 EURUSD 1.1555 1.1603 -28.80
2021.08.09 01:58 Buy 0.06 GBPAUD 1.8910 1.8370 -242.45
2021.10.14 18:17 Sell 0.06 GBPCAD 1.6924 1.7003 -38.35
2021.08.09 02:00 Buy 0.06 GBPCHF 1.2707 1.2640 -43.74
2021.10.15 19:55 Buy 0.06 GBPJPY 157.27 156.31 -50.67
2021.10.14 19:22 Buy 0.06 GBPNZD 1.9495 1.9225 -115.77
2021.10.15 00:00 Buy 0.06 GBPSGD 1.8467 1.8514 20.93
2021.10.08 04:00 Sell 0.06 GBPUSD 1.3615 1.3754 -83.40
2021.10.14 18:16 Buy 0.06 GOLD 1 798.49 1 801.20 16.26
2021.10.14 18:17 Sell 0.06 NZDCAD 0.8687 0.8840 -74.26
2021.10.21 00:00 Buy 0.06 NZDCHF 0.6624 0.6566 -37.86
2021.10.14 18:17 Buy 0.06 NZDJPY 79.82 81.22 73.90
2021.08.19 04:21 Sell 0.06 NZDUSD 0.6851 0.7150 -179.40
2021.10.08 04:02 Sell 0.06 SILVER 22.49 24.43 -582.00
2021.10.15 00:00 Sell 0.06 USDCAD 1.2370 1.2361 4.37
2021.08.12 18:56 Buy 0.06 USDCHF 0.9233 0.9192 -26.76
2021.10.15 10:37 Buy 0.06 USDJPY 114.18 113.67 -26.92
2021.08.09 02:00 Buy 0.06 USDSGD 1.3570 1.3470 -44.54
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Yousufkhodja Sultonov #:

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You can see overlapping volumes on cable, on kiwi, on kangaroo, on holy dollar...

You could plot the synthetic chart and see its dynamics and costs if you wanted...

But if every position has its own targets and risks, it's different...

I do not comment on strategy in any way 😁

 
PapaYozh #:


Diversification is not about loki/triangles/rings

Diversification is about not putting all your eggs in one basket.

Diversification is about distribution.

 
vladavd #:

So, yes, they give you nothing but a technical loss, then why do you need them? And that loss is understandable and can be eliminated, unlike market uncertainty. There is no sensible reason to tolerate it on your account.

And why bother so much? Each instance of EA works on its own.

 
transcendreamer #:

You can see the overlapping volumes on cable, kiwi, kangaroo, holy dollar...

You could plot a synthetic chart and see its dynamics and costs if you wanted...

But if every position has its own targets and risks, it's different...

Strategy is not commenting on it 😁

(If we want to check if there is a certain strategy in Forex, then it is possible to hedge several strategies (instances of one and the same) on strongly linked instruments. And in Forex they are all strongly linked.

The apologists of this possibility declare that in theory "the total risk of a package of strategies is close to the root mean square". That is, they compensate for each other. Some of them lose and some on the contrary.

But opponents answer that "if it is pouring, everything is pouring at once" - the risks are simply summed up and never averaged. Because it is their nature to take risks. The trader cares about the peak downwards, because it may be the last and there is something to sum it up from.

On the stock exchange it is easier - there are independent instruments or derivatives. Hedging is possible there - trading an asset is accompanied by transactions in futures, options and long term assets (bonds).

So what about here? They 'hedge' EURUSD purchase with USDCHF purchase? And so... they sell a USD with their left hand and buy with their right. Spread is given, margin is held. Look at the currency basket - there's crosses and untouched quid, and the costs are staggering.

a shitty trade came out. And nothing sucks out of a lot of individual shitty things. You can't trade in different directions on related or correlated instruments. If you trade in the same one, you should choose "Duncan McLeod" from the set, which should be the only one left, but a handsome one.