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And once again we see that the whole essence of the (quasi-)socialists' demands boils down to one thing: give me everything for free. 😁
If that's what they really demand, then I'm not a socialist. I don't demand to be given everything for free. Money has not been abolished yet, they can give away stale products on cards, i.e. for free. I don't need that, I have enough money.
Of course not equally, but a native speaker of my own culture and mentality will be closer and more valuable , all other things being equal. Well, because with him I can make a joke about Stirlitz or two chairs, but with some Korean I cannot. And he (this host) can with me and that is valuable.
It's good that you wrote that, the unequal attitude is the key point, then comes the way of distinguishing circles of intimacy, someone already mentioned here, and of course it is different for everyone, and just saying that I love all my countrymen is not fair, because you can't know them all personally ...
The metaphors are simple and straightforward, they can be explained using completely real-life examples. What happens if you come into conflict with representatives of some other ethnic groups for whom national (or some other) identity is still important? It is highly likely that your opponent will very quickly form a support group, against which you will be left alone.
What can I say here: Don't clash under deliberately disadvantageous conditions, it's not just about ethnicities, but also about social classes and even fans, if you accidentally enter the wrong sector...
You won't have any such support group because the inner circle is small, while the outer circle, consisting of independent progressive individuals just like you, does not feel any kinship with you or the need to support you. They will stand aside, because why bother, they will sort it out themselves, people are all the same, arms, legs, and head.
Oh, you'd think that if you get killed by thugs in Russia, a national support group will come to your aid. Don't be ridiculous, really.
And your opponents have a reliable system of recognizing insiders and outsiders, which leads to the fact that at a nominal balance of forces of 10 to 100, in a real conflict 10 to 1 participates, because 99 yawn on the sidelines, not feeling themselves a party to the conflict in connection with the loss of any stupid archaic identities. But then again, it doesn't come flying in that case with arguments on amusing speculative abstraction, but with a good old-fashioned joking postmodern face :)
A hooligan situation can happen in any country, I don't see how this relates to the subject of patriotism at all. What if I'm such a patriot and I was attacked by wild radical jihadists, how would that help me in this situation? As a matter of fact, I don't understand why you are writing all this at all? How should patriotism help me in practice in life, can you spell it out clearly?
If they do demand it, then I am not a socialist. I don't demand that they give me everything for free. No one has abolished money yet, but they may give out expired foodstuffs on cards, i.e. for free. I don't need that, I have enough money.
But as we have seen repeatedly before, that is exactly what you have done, demanding decent pay, but not saying that you are willing to give something in return.
You have also tried several times to encroach on the entrepreneur's private property in the form of net profits, which generally puts you among the potentially dangerous socialists 😉
There is a strong desire for cash to literally fall from the sky into my pockets.
No amount of philosophy can dull this acute thirst of mine.
What am I supposed to do? Help me, good people - do not let my orthodox soul perish in the pit of poverty and misery...
Another very far-fetched example, let's put it this way: if I see a fire here, of course I will try to help, but if I put out fires in California or in Australia or in Siberia - I won't go 😃 I think you won't go either, and people are suffering there by the way! - What kind of patriot are you then, not caring about your fellow countrymen?
Then you talk about pogroms and depression - you look like you were writing on a dial-up connection in the 1990s - what pogroms? What depression? - If you see something bad going on in the street you just call the police, while no one will do anything about depression, Russia has been depressed for decades? - And by the way why don't you do anything about the depression?
I don't understand why you're trying to ascribe some extraneous qualities to me. I have never written anything that I would call for giving up the police, rescue services, etc.
Demagoguery!
We are talking about general principles, not about a personal contribution of a concrete person to a concrete event, it is clear that the average contribution will be very small, if possible at all in view of the complexity of the necessary measures and solutions. Obviously, you have got a little tired in the heat of the dispute, if you descended to the level of a trivial "what have you done". :)
Does it mean that you have admitted that you have no arguments on the merits?
Only that the pithiness and pace of the discussion makes it a difficult, though interesting, activity that takes time and energy to engage in.
I may not know what is out there in the periphery, but so far it seems that there have been no cases of cannibalism.
Anyway, what were you trying to tell me, that I should give my profits to the peripheries or something? 😂🤣😅
The US has been waiting for the US to fall for decades, but for some reason nothing is falling, long time to wait apparently...
Well no, of course profits are a sacred thing :) It's just that you so categorically proclaimed the triumph of the new order, and it seems to me that it is a bit premature. The U.S. default I have there figuratively, purely as a flagship and symbol of the modern economy in general, which has run out of markets and nothing better than another redesign of iPhone buttons to maintain the consumer and industrial activity in this situation the current paradigm offers.
There is a strong desire for cash to literally fall from the sky into my pockets.
No amount of philosophy can dull this acute thirst of mine.
What am I supposed to do? Help me, good people - don't let my orthodox soul perish in a pit of poverty and misery...
The desire alone is not enough for this, one must act in a peculiar way. it is not in vain that the ancestors said "do not wait for manna from heaven".
But as we have seen repeatedly before, this is exactly what you have done, demanding decent pay but not saying you are willing to give anything in return.
You have also tried several times to encroach on the entrepreneur's private property in the form of net profits, which generally puts you among the potentially dangerous socialists 😉
There is a strong desire for cash to literally fall from the sky into my pockets.
No amount of philosophy can dull this acute thirst of mine.
What am I supposed to do? Help me, good people - don't let my orthodox soul perish in a rubbish pit of poverty and misery...
First ontology, axiology, gnoseology andagatology, and only then money!
At this point, it seems you're better off agreeing to a draw. Because both Chorosh and Drimmer have sensible points to make. There's just an accumulation of static electricity that makes it impossible to stop.
Guys, I get it, it's a perpetual motion machine. Now we're going to be fabulously rich!"Give me everything for free" and demanding a decent wage are not the same thing.You resort to using hyperbole to make an impression. This tells you that you've run out of arguments and in order to be convincing you have to distort my position to the point of absurdity. That's not fair.
It is not hyperbole at all, read your posts again, you demand a decent salary, but how and by what it will be financed - silence, and this is tantamount to simply saying: give me everything for free! - That is, as usual with socialists - beg.
My arguments have been and remain unshakeable, I stand for remuneration based on the principlesof meritocracy and voluntary contracting, and not giving money to just anyone, it is harmful, let them work and earn for themselves, and for the inviolability of property and net profit protection and for an optimized tax system so that one can choose where the deductions will go. I am as positive, constructive and optimistic about the future as possible.