Looking for patterns - page 286

 
Yousufkhodja Sultonov:

I have stated several times that the real returns from forex do not and cannot exceed the bank rate. Working robot on real account on VPS has proved this fact after 6 years of continuous work. it reached annual average return of 9% under conditions of no profit reinvestment, i.e. 0.01 fixed lot on Centovolm account.

I cannot agree with you.

It all depends on the lot/deposit ratio. If the deposit is 10 000 and the lot is 0.01 and there is no leverage. It's closer to a statement.

 

The stock market has been around for over 100 years...

FOREX market - since 1970...

The structure of forex is no different from that of the stock market...

Now we think... For more than 100 years most traders were looking for patterns in the financial markets...

Do you think they were much stupider than you...?

Statistics is a stubborn thing! If it says that there ARE 5% of successful traders in financial markets, it is not just because of that...

So the problem: "Obtaining SUSTAINABLE PROFIT on financial markets" - is completely solvable...

What is the conclusion?

...

There is a solution, but this problem is VERY DIFFERENT ( at the level of invention ), and it cannot be solved by simple methods....... Otherwise more than half of traders would be millionaires or even higher...

 
Serqey Nikitin:

The stock market has been around for over 100 years...

FOREX market - since 1970...

The structure of forex is no different from that of the stock market...

Now we think... For more than 100 years most traders were looking for patterns in the financial markets...

Do you think they were much stupider than you...?

Statistics is a stubborn thing! If it says that there ARE 5% of successful traders in financial markets, it is not just because of that...

So the problem: "Obtaining SUSTAINABLE PROFIT on financial markets" - is completely solvable...

What is the conclusion?

...

There is a solution, but this problem is VERY DIFFERENT ( at the level of invention ), and it cannot be solved by simple methods.... Otherwise more than half of traders would be millionaires or even higher...

Again?

 
Vitaly Muzichenko:

Again?

Why don't you like the 5% figure...?

Give me another figure... The problem and conclusions will not change...

 
Serqey Nikitin:

The stock market has been around for over 100 years...

FOREX market - since 1970...

The structure of forex is no different from that of the stock market...

Now we think... For more than 100 years most traders were looking for patterns in the financial markets...

Do you think they were much stupider than you...?

Statistics is a stubborn thing! If it says that there ARE 5% of successful traders in financial markets, it is not just because of that...

So the problem: "Obtaining SUSTAINABLE PROFIT on financial markets" - is completely solvable...

What is the conclusion?

...

There is a solution, but this problem - a VERY DIFFICULT ( at the level of invention ), and it cannot be solved by simple methods .... Otherwise more than half of the traders would have been millionaires long ago or even higher...

What is there to compare, analysis that was done on millimetre paper and analysis on modern computers?

The speed of information processing has increased, but the owners of the new technology of processing have not increased. There is a constant lag of progress.

If you look at the success rate, more than 5% trade at a profit, and around zero 30%. Yes, and 65% with no experience are losing.

 
Serqey Nikitin:

Why don't you like the 5% figure...?

Give me another figure... The essence of the problem and conclusions will not change...

Rating agencies give it, from the statistics collected.

And you are a couch expert who has taken the figure from the ceiling without statistics!

 
Uladzimir Izerski:

What is there to compare, analysis that was done on millimetre paper and analysis on modern computers?

The speed of information processing has increased, but there is no increase in the number of people who have mastered the new processing technologies. There is a constant lagging behind of progress.

If you look at the success rate, more than 5% trade at a profit, and around zero 30%. Yes, and 65% with no experience are losing.

If it was ALL about the speed of information processing, the financial markets would have closed a long time ago...

But the reality is very different, which means the solution to the problem lies a bit on a different plane...

 
Vitaly Muzichenko:

The rating agencies give it, from the statistics they collect.

And you are a sofa expert who has taken the figure from the ceiling, with no statistics!

Right, right...

There are only rating ANALYSTS gathered here... I don't know what to do with them...


P.S. You are the smartest one here, so you focus on the numbers, but not the conclusions...

And that is VERY SMART!

 
Serqey Nikitin:

If it was all about speed of information processing, the financial markets would have closed long ago...

But the reality is very different, which means that the solution to the problem lies in a slightly different plane...

So, it is the speed of information processing that has increased, while many have remained at the level of analysis onmillimeter paper.

It is clear to the horse's eye that reality has changed. There are many new opportunities to analyse markets, but not everyone is capable of it. Price is not to blame.

 
Uladzimir Izerski:

So it is the speed of information processing that has increased, while many have remained at the level of analysis onmillimetre paper.

It is clear to the horse's eye that reality has changed. There are many new opportunities to analyse markets, but not everyone is capable of it. Price is not to blame.

Once again you are taking the PROBLEM itself into a special case...

Basically - NOTHING has changed, the curve chart in two coordinates has remained the same as it was...

Those who knew how to solve this problem have lost nothing with computerisation...