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Реter Konow:

Sadly, algotrading has become the mentally retarded little brother of the old manual trading. The level of understanding of the market has dropped so low and everything has become so primitive that it is scary.

Where do you wonder where this vision comes from? Who is leaking all this crap to you?

 
Fast528:

Where do you wonder where this vision comes from? Who's leaking all this crap to you?

You are. With your reactions and posts.)

 
Ivan Elsukov:

I've been surfing freelance and am amused by the "I'll buy a profitable EA for 30 quid" orders (God, that's so sweet).

Let's talk about this thing.

What is the real cost of an owl that makes the owner money.

Of course I understand that there is no point in selling a hen that lays golden eggs, but still, here's the situation "SuperMegaBrain wrote an owl that brings profit" but this brain has no money to include the owl in its work.

You can do the math :-)

Suppose with available securities of $300 the Expert Advisor brings 15% a month, and in the worst case it may lead to a drawdown of 30%. The owner clearly does not need the drawdown, he craves risk-free operations that do not require investments.
And he wants to live (or at least to drink) from the proceeds. That is, lost profit = loss.

This means that he must get these 15%+30%*1/2 from other sources, in particular selling owl and signals. Then the risks for the Expert Advisor as a whole are reduced to 0.
In this example, the owner must gain $100 per month from sales and signals. In other words, he can afford to rent or give signals at the minimum rate of $30/month.

 
Реter Konow:

You. With your reactions and posts)).

This is a bot, not a shopping mall to buy, you don't need to find followers here, I'd start with flyers and flyers in the driveway

 
Fast528:

They're here to buy a bot, not a shopping mall, you don't need to find followers here, I'd start with flyers and flyers in the driveway.

Yep, graale bots, - powerful products for powerful intellects. ))

 
But here we go. The author has disappeared, but everyone has jumped off the topic and started a "fight" amongst themselves :)
 
Реter Konow:

Sadly, algotrading has become the mentally retarded little brother of the old manual trading. The level of understanding of the market has dropped so low and everything has become so primitive that it is scary.

I don't understand how people can trust trading to robots at all. Even though I'm far from

I'm not a programmer, but I do understand that the market isn't constant, it's constantly

it's constantly changing. You can't apply a program to the market where there are clear boundaries and

and the robot trades within those boundaries. Yes, the robot can make money for a while if those boundaries coincide

with the "boundaries" of the market. Well, you got my point)))

But then all the same inevitable loss.

You have to trade manually.

 
Aleksandr Yakovlev:

I don't understand how people can trust trading to robots at all. Even though I'm far from

I'm not a programmer, but I do understand that the market isn't constant, it's constantly

it's constantly changing. You can't apply a program to the market where there are clear boundaries and

and the robot trades within those boundaries. Yes, the robot can make money for a while if those boundaries coincide

with the "boundaries" of the market. Well, you got my point)))

But then all the same inevitable loss.

You have to trade manually.

You are talking about primitive robots based on classic indicators. But there are robots that see and understand the market much better and faster than a human, and apply different tactics depending on the market situation.
The problem is that such robots are not for sale. Would you sell such a robot if it has a 30% expected payoff per month with a max drawdown of 5% and a probability of a margin call within a year of 2% if you also understand the basic market rule: price goes against the majority. You then run the risk of being outnumbered.
 
Nikolai Semko:
You're talking about primitive trading robots based on classic indicators. But there are robots that see the market and understand it much better and faster than a human, and depending on the market situation they use different tactics.
The problem is that such robots are not for sale. Would you sell such a robot if it has a mathematical expectation of profit of 30% a month with a max. drawdown of 5% and a probability of a margin call within a year of 2%, if you also understand the basic rule of market: price goes against the majority. After all, then you run the risk of being in the minority.

This is the robot that we are talking about. I don't know anything about other robots.

And in any case, they are written by humans. And as you know, humans can't foresee and

and foresee everything. I think there is no point in arguing with that.

Obviously, such robots also have flaws that cannot be avoided.

And, accordingly, adjustments are constantly being made to them.

 
Uladzimir Kirychenka:
For several years now I've been "fighting" to create a FULLY automatic profitable Expert Advisor. And I came to the conclusion that it is not realistic. Any Advisor works profitable for a certain period of time, then it is in the red, then it is profitable again, etc. Any Expert Advisor in a certain period of time needs to be tested again, and the parameters need to be adjusted. Many "buyers" in the Market want freebies. That is, they bought, installed it, and "get rich". But that does not happen. And then there are grudges, complaints. They say you make a profit but your robot trades on the downside. We expect them to remember that we cannot do this because we do not know how to trade and we do not know how to work with them. This is not a hammer, which is easy to operate. It's much more complicated than that.

really made one that adapts itself. With the same parameters it works on 28 currency pairs, I tested all 28 pairs for 10 years and with the same parameters it works on 28 Russian shares, I tested them for 5 years. Nothing is optimized or adjusted, everything is working by itself.

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