From theory to practice - page 118

 
СанСаныч Фоменко:

You should not choose island DCs. You should take ONLY on the basis of broker banks and those with European licences. And this risk can be neglected.

Apart from that there are other risks.

But the risks of instability of the model itself are in our hands. You just have to always keep this in mind and direct your efforts towards solving this problem.

I think clients of the now defunct Alpari UK in London could elaborate on the European licences. They got 14 cents a pound after two years of waiting, and could probably clarify what it costs to neglect those risks.

Quite right, there are many risks. Let 10, and one of them, one is entitled to think, is in our hands. Let each of these 10 risks be a little, 1%. The probability of failure of the system as a whole is about 10%, 90% of the time it works. Then, after spending a few years and having reduced the risk of model instability by as much as 2 times, we can raise the reliability of the system from 90 to 90.5%. Pretty cool, eh?

 
Vladimir:

I think clients of the now defunct Alpari UK in London could elaborate on the European licences. They got 14 cents a pound after two years of waiting, and could probably clarify what it costs to neglect those risks.

Quite right, there are many risks. Let 10, and one of them, one is entitled to think, is in our hands. Let each of these 10 risks be a little, 1%. The probability of failure of the system as a whole is about 10%, 90% of the time it works. Then, after spending a few years and having reduced the risks of model instability by as much as 2 times, we can raise the reliability of the system from 90 to 90.5%. Isn't that great?


A model that doesn't work is a 100% risk.


PS.

The DC you named is insular and cannot be discussed.

 
СанСаныч Фоменко:

A model that doesn't work is a 100% risk.


PS.

The DC you named is insular and cannot be discussed.

A stably non-functioning model is usually not used for real trading. And the risks do not arise.

Let the address of Alpari (UK) Limited 201 Bishopsgate London, EC2M 3AB United Kingdom be on the small banana island of the UK, fine. However, I wouldn't argue with the view that the European peninsula gives bad licences either. It's a matter of taste.

 
Alexander_K2:

As long as the matter is the same and there are no deals, I will begin to teach my esteemed Vladimir, for he has grasped the root of t and does not want to retreat.

I tell him to read Shelepin's articles, except for inserts about Fibonacci numbers (obviously, imposed to him by his unreasonable child) - he does not read.

See page 9 of part 1.

For pseudo-Markov processes:

The variance S^2=c*t*l, where:

l - mean value of jumps

t - observation time

s - jump frequencies in time t (number of ticks)

By jumps we mean tick increments of price.

We have:

S^2 = (N/t)*t*mean(|Ask(t)-Ask(t-1)|) = N*mean(|Ask(t)-Ask(t-1)|)

S = sqrt(N*mean(|Ask(t)-Ask(t-1)|)), where N is the number of ticks during observation time t.

Now, Vladimir, do you understand the difference with your root of t???

By the way, I've just described one of my algorithms, which is still under development.

Where am I to fall back on results obtained by simply measuring real data?

https://www.mql5.com/ru/forum/221552/page19#comment_6168925"Before multiplication, the values on the curves shown differed by a factor of 18; after multiplication, they differed by a factor of 20. It's about the law of the square root."

To the unreal ones, is it? Or at least away from the real ones, as in the Shelepins papers you recommend? They also, like you, do not agree to solve specific problems. You aim at destroying retail forex, while Shelepin L.A. does not even agree on that, he is solving no less than planetary issues, figuring out the philosophical foundations of the universe

4. Kharitonov A.S., Shelepin L.A. "Equilibrium distributions in the theory of non-Markov processes". Short communications on physics. 1996, № 7,8, с.79-83.

14. Azroyants E.A., Kharitonov A.S., Shelepin L.A. "Non-Markov Processes as a New Paradigm", Philosophy Issues, 1999, ¹7, pp. 94-104.

28. Kharitonov A.S., Shelepin L.A. "Principle of golden proportion as a characteristic of processes with memory". In: "Life Strategy in Conditions of Planetary Ecological Crisis" 2002, Vol. 2,378-385.

Together with the author of fundamental works such as

10. A.S. Kharitonov "Harmony of the world and conditions of its sustainable development on the basis of the golden proportion rule". Sbornik: Papers of X1 MFI-97, Informational Problems of Ecology. Moscow, 1997, p.7.

24. A.S. Kharitonov, "System of equations to describe processes in nature cycle," Engineering Physics , 2001, No.1, pp. 4-5.

49. Kharitonov A.S. "Formation of Social Systems and the Golden Section Fractal". Scientific and Methodological Collection of the Faculty of Social Control. М., 2008. С.77-82.

http://www.goldensectionclub.net/publications/kharitonov

Kant and Hegel cry in the dressing room, Engels with his Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State did not even pass the qualifying round...
 
СанСаныч Фоменко:

It doesn't matter whether you separated or not - I was just stating my thoughts.


Why do you think that the results obtained here can be proof of anything?

That's the whole problem!

What's more, the proof of the future is not in the tester, it's not in the demo or the real - all these results say: this is how it was. And from this "was" it does not at all follow the future, and this future is based only on faith and hope: the future will be the same as the past. And on what basis?

If, for whatever reason, we do not use the (very extensive) available knowledge, then the first question in relation to our favourite idea is: does this idea have a predictive power? If it does, why?

SanSanych, be honest with me. These Archie Garchie Aphirimas of yours. Do they let you earn your own money?
If they don't have predictive ability, then why are you running around the forum with them everywhere. Or maybe you just "don't know how to cook them". Some people claim they use Fourier, although its direct application in its classic form has no real predictive ability in the market.

And if they work for you, what's the problem with proving it. It doesn't have to be strict mathematical after all. There are some that are not strict. Experimental ones after all.
 
Vladimir:

A stably dysfunctional model is not usually used for real trading. Nor does it generate risk.

Let the address of Alpari (UK) Limited 201 Bishopsgate London, EC2M 3AB United Kingdom be on the small banana island of the UK, fine. However, I wouldn't argue with the view that the European peninsula gives bad licences either. It's a matter of taste.

I don't know about that kitchen in London. But our people have long since figured out that if people don't go for registration in Bermuda, it's easy to make a slip that you're not in Bermuda at all. Even quite a real show bill that he is a real patriotic, law-abiding and disinterested resident of Russia. With his main account in the same bermuda. There are plenty of more sophisticated schemes out there. We don't have a lot of experience with scams. I don't know if we have any experience in scamming him.
Here they will bankrupt it on paper and transfer the dough to the offshore. They will pay you an undisclosed sum of money, allegedly as compensation or insurance from the government. So what do you do. There is no point in moaning, such kitchens may have a roof at the very top. So no one will know the real machinations. The bag is filled with money, then voila, and there is nothing but air to give. As long as mice do not chew it up, they do not find out and carry it to the storehouse of integrity (for example). Unfortunately, unreliability has already spread to the whole world. Their unreliability is, however, better than ours. In our country they can also poke you in the rib.
 
ILNUR777:
I do not know about this kitchen in London. But our people have long found out that if people are not persuaded to register in Bermuda, they may easily make a reservation that you are not in Bermuda at all. Even quite a real show bill that he is a real patriotic, law-abiding and disinterested resident of Russia. With his main account in the same bermuda. There are plenty of more sophisticated schemes out there. We don't have a lot of experience with scams. I don't know if I can trust the opening after all the recent moves with him.
They'll bankrupt him on paper and transfer the money offshore. And they'll pay you a sum of change, supposedly compensation from the government or insurance. So what do you do. There is no point in moaning, such kitchens may have a roof at the very top. So no one will know the real machinations. The bag is filled with money, then voila, and there is nothing but air to give. As long as mice do not chew it up, they do not find out and carry it to the storehouse of integrity (for example). Unfortunately, unreliability has already spread to the whole world. Their unreliability is, however, better than ours. We may also get punched in the ribs.

The main method to reduce these risks - trade with dozens of brokerage companies. Place a minimum of funds with each of them and watch out that profits do not grow to unreasonable size. Withdraw funds in time. At the same time we discover that the brokerage company does not want to work with such a toxic client. Then we part with him peacefully and let the other household members trade with him. Then the relatives. Friends. Acquaintances. Then forget about him for three years. Fortunately, there are two thousand forex companies with Metatrader alone, and the world has not come to a head with it.

About the ribbing, I think it's fantasy. We also think that the brokerage firms value their reputations. Or do you have the facts?

 

From your reasoning, I think it is appropriate to dwell on the question of whether one should trade hands and consider this following "some" as serious. Or should trading be automated for serious work. The forum we are on is dedicated to means of trade automation. Look how many people want to become "Gorynych Serpents". These are the forum members. And you are here too. And it does not make any difference if the automated trading is performed in one brokerage company with 3-30 TPs or in 40 ones with thousands of TPs. This is not a value judgment, but my trading experience since 2009.

Regarding the FRMC. "The Commission for the Regulation of Financial Market Participants" disappeared from the register of legal entities of the Russian Federation on 04 September 2017. As a result of quite deliberate management action. Judging by your words, you have no idea on what basis this structure worked. Well, no need to make things up. Now even the former documents (the Charter of the KROUFR, several editions of the Regulations of the Arbitration Commission and the Rules of consideration of claims) are nowhere to be found.

P.S. While writing this message, disappeared on which I reacted. And I did not quote you. I will leave it as it is.

 
Vladimir:

From your reasoning, I think it is appropriate to dwell on whether you should trade with your hands and consider it, following "some", as serious. Or should trading be automated for serious work. The forum we are on is dedicated to means of trade automation. Look how many people want to become "Gorynych Serpents". These are the forum members. And you are here too. And it does not make any difference if the automated trading is performed in one brokerage company with 3-30 TPs or in 40 ones with thousands of TPs. This is not a value judgment, but my trading experience since 2009.

Regarding the FRMC. "The Commission for the Regulation of Financial Market Participants" disappeared from the register of legal entities of the Russian Federation on 04 September 2017. As a result of quite deliberate management action. Judging by your words, you have no idea on what basis this structure worked. Well, no need to make things up. Now even the former documents (the Charter of the KROUFR, several editions of the Regulations of the Arbitration Commission and the Rules of consideration of claims) are nowhere to be found.

P.S. While writing this message, disappeared that on which I reacted. And I did not quote you. I leave it as it is.

Since you wrote, I'll return mine, it's a response to the penultimate one you wrote. And forget it.
Not everything can be automated, as we sometimes want to.
Everyone has his own experience. Regarding the CRUFM. It has long been clear who set it up.

If you weren't, you wouldn't be writing. The high-profile ones are all covered, more or less depends on the circumstances. Br...o was once considered by some to be a real broker)))). They even put a screen of independent "court" of the KROUFR for themselves. It's as if the court and the executor and the defendant would be one man.
Already ponazayut titles, and the EU ticked the box, but in fact, as were and remain.

If some will trade with their hands, they should become serpents or garynychs to trade simultaneously in a hundred brokerage houses. They are not serious.

About "value their reputation" - funny. They care about money and technologies to lure more people. If business also exists on the weaning. Those who cherish it, they earn it.
Look how much money they invest in advertising. Casino also all sites are stuffed, and that, you can not tell by them that they value their reputation, they do not care. The main thing is the flow of newcomers and tastemakers. Why would they worry about the old and cutting their hair. That's if you live off the commission, yeah. The old ones are more profitable, they have much bigger accounts than the 100 newbies.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a black client base like a casino. To keep an eye on them from the start. And you, forget it for three years. They're not suckers either.
This is a huge industry. They are on forums and among pams. These days, the sucker is picky. He needs more grandiose orders. They need big names and comparisons to Wall Street.) So he doesn't just blow it. And to enjoy the feeling of deep loss, when our own money is lost not because of naivety, but because of devital events on the stock market.

Again, not all.

PS. I'm not arguing. Experience is not the same as experience. Maybe you manage a hundred cent accounts. You're withdrawing a grand total of 125 quid. Of course, who needs you to lose. You could trade in kitchens like that.

 
Vladimir:

The main method of reducing the risks you mentioned is to trade with dozens of DCs.

Use IB and then you don't need to trade with a hundred brokers.