Freelance's new design! - page 5

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Vladimir Gribachev:

We get a loss when people like you knock down the price and do jobs for 1-5 dollars, sometimes for 10.

They will not benefit from the number of orders for 5 quid, the developer will move to another field because there is no point in working for 100 quid a month.

You will also soon stop working for a penny, that's it!!!, you're out of business! What next?

After such prices (1-5 dollars) the client begins to think that an EA for 3000 lines will cost 30-35 dollars maximum, and convincing him that such work costs 300 + is not realistic.

However, they find an altruist like you who is willing to do the job for 30 quid, stalls for a month, and then cancels the job through arbitrage.

ah, you don't even freelance...

then the customer reapplies and finds an altruist for $35 again, repetition is the mother of learning.....

And so around while we will not lose the customer, as he will have the opinion that his order was not normal anyone can not, and those who put the real price tag just want to cheat him.

ZS. 30 quid per alert is fine if you remove altruists like you, the customer will get used to the price tag very quickly ...

I even suggest you skewer half the freelancers for the future, which would be worthwhile.

Mow down by flanking Cossacks with various checks.


Yes, especially those who are too rich will leave and those who are really ready to work in conditions of strong competition will take their place. After all, it's like in life: you go buy a Chinese phone, drive on a road that Tajiks are standing on, sit on an Armenian carpet and read that there is no work for such a specialist in the country. There are people to replace them all, and if you want to, you can track where the mass of these orders go. Websites are freelance, at least 7/24 and there is a lot to choose from. I said everything.
 
Mickey Moose:

... to work in a highly competitive environment. ...

There's no such thing as "fierce competition" in freelancing. Not in this freelance business or any other. This competition bullshit was sucked out of thin air by the same people who were talking about the "ease" of a couple of lines for a dollar.

That volume of incoming orders would be mastered at the level and without haste.

What we have in freelancing is regular confusion and misleading customers about the ease of "a couple of lines".

How many trading strategies, money and time have been unreasonably thrown away by clients from writing Expert Advisors by such "smart guys"?

 
Mickey Moose:

Well, yes, those who are particularly overpaid will leave and those who are really prepared to work in a highly competitive environment will take their place. After all, it's like in life: you go and buy a Chinese phone, drive down a road lined with Tajiks, sit down on an Armenian carpet and read that there is no work for such a specialist in the country. There are people to replace them all, and if you want to, you can track where the mass of these orders go. Websites are freelance, at least 7/24 and there is a lot to choose from. I said everything.

In fact you did not participate in any work either by the customer or the executor.

So your statements can be skipped. You don't earn any money, but you teach others (who work) how much they should value their work.

 
Renat Fatkhullin:

In fact, you have not participated in any of the jobs either as a customer or a contractor.

So you may skip your statements. You do not earn any money, but you teach others (who work) how much their work should be worth.

It's up to you.
About the fact that I do not participate - I will not be here to advertise other sites where I take orders? By the way I made them no more than 50 for all time.

And the fact that I was blocked here - I'm not going to discuss changes in the rules of your resource.

One last thing. If administrators read this topic and know about the charms of MQL5, I will start from the beginning. I want to make a fully self-sufficient file without including other languages in it. I want to make a fully self-sufficient file not including other languages in it. Since other forum participants cannot answer this question, I will ask you. Is it possible?
 
Mickey Moose:


One last thing. If administrators are reading this topic and there are topics about the charms of MQL5 in the common thread. I want to make a fully self-sufficient file without including other languages in it. I want to make a fully self-sufficient file not including other languages in it. Since other forum members may not be able to answer this question, I will ask you. Is it possible?

No. Offtop.

 
Mickey Moose:

About the fact that I do not participate - I will not be here to advertise other sites where I take orders? By the way I made them no more than 50 in all time.

Believe. As in 2 lines above.

 
Andrey F. Zelinsky:

There is no "fierce competition" in freelancing and there never has been. Not in this freelance industry, not in any other. This competition nonsense was sucked out of their fingers by the same characters as the "complexity" bullshit about a couple of lines for a dollar.

That volume of incoming orders would be mastered at the level and without haste.

What we have in freelancing is regular confusion and misleading customers about the ease of a "couple of lines" job.

How many trading strategies, money and time have been unreasonably thrown away by clients due to writing Expert Advisors by such "smart guys"?

The strategy is always the same - to pocket the plus difference from the deal.
And how much more will be thrown away due to bad performance and inaccurate TOR that are not even pleasant to read. And about "obfuscation" is no more than a fairy tale, as well as the lack of competition.

And about the fact that convince the customer that the job is worth more - if you can not do it, there will be someone who can do it and earn.

 
Mickey Moose:
The strategy is always the same - put the plus difference from the deal in your pocket.
And how many more will be thrown away because of poor execution and sloppy terms of reference that are unpleasant to even read. And about "confusion" is nothing more than a fairy tale, as well as the lack of competition.

And what about the fact that convince the customer that this job is worth more - if you can not do it, there will be someone who can do it and earn.


The answer in this thread to any of your comments may be only one:

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New Freelance design!

Renat Fatkhullin, 2017.10.06 11:49

In fact, you have not participated in any job either as a customer or a performer.

So your statements can be skipped. You don't earn any money, but you teach others (who work) how much they should value their work.

You have no moral right to write anything in this thread. You are incompetent in this matter, so please refrain from further comments on Freelance.
 
Vladimir Karputov:

You have no moral authority to write anything in this thread. You are incompetent in this matter, so please refrain from commenting further on Freelance.

This is fundamentally the wrong approach. Everyone is welcome to discuss freelancing, including those who haven't participated yet - particularly because there are some things it doesn't suit you and these aspects need to be discussed to improve.
 
Mickey Moose:
The strategy is always the same - put the plus difference from the deal in your pocket.
And how many more will be thrown away because of poor execution and sloppy terms of reference that are unpleasant to even read. And about "confusion" is nothing more than a fairy tale, as well as the lack of competition.

And about the fact that convince the customer that the job is worth more - if you can not do it, there will be someone who can do it and earn.

Time itself is priceless.

But some are willing to sell their time for cheap, such as you, it's from a lack of understanding of the value of time.

And someone realizes that his time is valuable and does not want to splash out on orders of 2 lines for cheap.

That's the difference: the value of your time.

Don't value your time, do it for cheap, and don't teach others to do the same.

SZS: I used to write here for food and was happy with how customers blew my mind for $10!
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