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Kirill Belousov:

This is what an argument without substance sometimes looks like from the outside:



The word Idiot has a very clear meaning, it has been distorted over time...

After all, an Idiot is a perfectly normal person who has no interest in politics and is not interested in politics.

From this point of view, the earth is mainly inhabited by idiots, a lot of quite interesting and intelligent people are idiots.

If a person is interested in politics but cannot influence it, what is the point of being interested?

For example - on a forum the idiotic rule - for a policy to be banned!

Ie according to this logic - the forum offers us to be idiots, within the forum of course.

But it is quieter on the forum, the forum on the subject is not political, there are a lot of smart and interesting people.

 
Yuriy Zaytsev:

The word Idiot has quite a clear meaning, it has been distorted over time...

After all, an Idiot is a perfectly normal person who simply gives a damn about politics and is not interested in politics.

From this point of view, the earth is mainly inhabited by idiots, a lot of quite interesting and intelligent people are idiots.

If a person is interested in politics but cannot influence it, what is the point of being interested?

For example - on a forum the idiotic rule - for a policy to be banned!

Ie according to this logic - the forum offers us to be idiots, within the forum of course.

But it is quieter on the forum, the forum on the subject is not political, there are a lot of smart and interesting people.

You can engage in demagoguery for a long time :)

Words have meanings. The concept of 'idiocy' also has meanings. One is medical - congenital dementia. The other is colloquial - synonymous with "stupid".

Quote from Wiki:The term "idiotism" in Russian is used as a colloquial name for congenital dementia, and also to refer to any nonsense, stupidity[7]. Usually no one using the word implies a corresponding medical term, emphasising more on the absurdity, the unreasonableness of behaviour. A well-known (though ambiguous) example of an "idiot" is soldierSchweik.

What you have described does not really fit the term "idiot". I think you can find a better word if you want to.

When logic is flawed, you can draw whatever conclusions you like. A Logic textbook to the rescue :)

I support the ban on discussing politics in an off-topic forum with both hands.

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МКБ-10 МКБ-9 DiseasesDB MedlinePlus eMedicine MeSH Идиоти́я (прост. идиотизм) (от др.-греч.  — «частная жизнь; невежественность, необразованность») — самая глубокая степень олигофрении (умственной отсталости), в тяжёлой форме характеризующаяся почти полным отсутствием речи и мышления. Больные, страдающие идиотией, с трудом могут ходить, у...
 
Kirill Belousov:

There is a lot of demagoguery to be had :)

Words have meanings. So does 'idiocy'. One is medical - congenital dementia. The other is colloquial - synonymous with "stupid".

Quote from Wiki:The term "idiotism" in Russian is used as a colloquial name for congenital dementia, and also to refer to any nonsense, stupidity[7]. Usually no one using the word implies a corresponding medical term, emphasising more on the absurdity, the unreasonableness of behaviour. A well-known (though ambiguous) example of an "idiot" is soldierSchweik.

What you have described does not really fit the term "idiot". I think you can find a better word if you want to.

When logic is flawed, you can draw whatever conclusions you like. A Logic textbook to the rescue :)

A ban on discussing politics in an off-topic forum I support with both hands.


Originally it was Greek :-), but later it was transformed.


  • Idiot- in Ancient Greece, a citizen of the polis, living apart from public life, not participating in the general assembly of citizensof the polis and other forms of state and public democratic government.

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And in this sense - let's say more radical rather than conjectural - later on, some of the common people are idiots. Estimate the percentage of people who refuse to go to elections.

Many famous people - very interesting, educated, creative - ignore this procedure, they don't go to elections.

 
Andrey Dik:

Give a concrete example.
In any case, a participant with an infinitely large balance, zero drawdown and infinite fv will have the maximum possible - 3 points and will deserved nationwide honor and respect (although such a situation is impossible). Don't forget the requirement of at least 10 deals.
As you can see, there are no problems.

An example is the current championship table.

And if you calculate the relevant Score components (if you calculate them, of course), you'll see everything :)

I thought it was obvious without calculations. But for simplicity and clarity, I give a table of calculations in Excel.

Yellow marked those participants, which should have on the right in the column (also yellow) the value of one of the components for the Recovery Factor is not less than marked blue. ie if now stands 0.001, it should be 0.5. (Well and Blue should have 0.001 deducted from it approximately).

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Kirill Belousov:

An example is the current championship table.

And if you calculate the relevant Score components (if you calculate them, of course), you'll see everything :)

I thought it was obvious without calculations. But for simplicity and clarity, I give a table of calculations in Excel.

Yellow marked those participants, which should have on the right in the column (also yellow) the value of one of the components for the Recovery Factor is not less than marked blue. ie if now stands 0.001, it should be 0.5. (Well and Blue should have subtracted 0.001 or so).

Perhaps there is something wrong with the formula calculation on the monitoring site. I will only be able to check in the evening, I can't answer more specifically now.

Vitaly, please check, if there is such an opportunity, that everything is normal with fv.

 
Yuriy Zaytsev:

so originally it was Greek :-), it was later transformed


  • Idiot- In ancient Greece, a citizen of a polis living apart from public life, not participating in the general assembly of citizensof the polis and other forms of state and public democratic government.

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And in this sense - let's say more radical rather than conjectural - later on, some of the common people are idiots. Estimate the percentage of people who refuse to go to elections.

Many famous people - very interesting, educated, creative people - ignore this procedure, they don't go to elections.

The ancient Greek "idiot" also had two meanings. The second meaning is exactly what is used nowadays. And the first meaning is not more indigenous, but obsolete, and has been replaced by more modern terms these days.

Quoting in scraps is not civilised at all.

Full quote of the definition:

Idiot(fromthe Greekἰδιώτης, "individual, private person; ignorant person"):

  • Idiot- in ancient Greece, a citizen of the polis, living apart from public life, not participating in the general assembly of the citizensof the polis and other forms of state and public democratic government.
  • Idiot- a person suffering from a profound form of mental retardation (oligophrenia) - idiocy.
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Andrey Dik:

Perhaps there is something wrong with the formula calculation on the monitoring website. I will only be able to check in the evening, I will not be able to answer more specifically right now.

Vitaly, please check, if there is an opportunity, that everything is OK with the fv.

The monitoring site has exactly the same numbers as the ones I got based on your description of the formula. It all matched tautly. The error is that the formulas did not provide for the specifics of the range of values that the Recovery Factor can take.
 

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Kirill Belousov:
The monitoring website has exactly the same figures as the ones I got from your description of the formula. Everything matched up yew and yew and yew and yew. The error is that the formulas did not provide for the specifics of the range of values that the Recovery Factor can take.


Then there is nothing to worry about. It is not important what values fv takes, it is important what it is in relation to the other participants, if it is bigger, then it is better. Coefficient 0.5 does not allow fv in the formula to make distortions that make the results of the competition meaningless, the main indicator is balance and therefore it has coefficient 1.5, the second essential indicator is drawdown with coefficient 1, and fv only slightly changes the overall picture - if fv is maximum among participants, then it gives only 0.5 points out of 3 possible.

 
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