LET'S FIND OUT WHO HAS LOST THE MOST MONEY ON THE FOREX MARKET AND FOR HOW LONG !!!! - page 21

 
Svinozavr:


Trading forex, don't know anything about FX except that it exists. Advice on how to get to it.
 
Svinozavr:

I don't. It was a pure market maker strategy. First to provoke sales and then to buy cheaper.

Shit... Even yours truly with his modest capital in a thin market can move quotes. True, I've been punished for it somehow - I've had my statement beaten in a glass...)) I even know who...

From what I understand from the book - to get out of an unsuccessful trade at breakeven.....

 
valenok2003:
I trade forex, I know nothing about FX except that it exists. Advise me how to get to it.

I'm going to get banned... )))

Man, what's the problem, is Google bankrupt? There are other search engines...))

Writein person or Skype OutOfSample.

 
Tantrik:
So it is not clear - the main fund, and purely forex (since you told me) how much per year and how much is it % of the deposit?

Yes, main fund, Saxobank has combined accounts, I have A1 A2 shares, they release up to 50% of free cash, I work with currencies, leverage max 10.

50-50 with the fund, I have just made capital on the crisis. I can make it clear:) The bigger the deposit, the easier it is:)

 
diml:
Yes, the main fund, at saxobank the accounts are combined, I have A1 A2 shares, they release up to 50% free cash under them, I work with currency on them, leverage max 10.
Thank you.
 
LeoV:

Well, all in one day is not possible )))) Either a sinking or the offers. Take your pick ))))


I can't understand what she wants, at least in the casino, the atmosphere, the service...

That's how you can write this in all seriousness: "Dear investors, the risk per transaction is 100%, I will trade until the account is drained to zero. I will open offers in the next few days.

 
Graalfx:

And in general there are people in betting offices who earn steadily and without risk, with the help of "forks", arbitrage situations between different offices.
One of my acquaintances laughs, he says: "What am I suffering with this Forex? He himself has been earning a stable and risk-free 10% a month on forks for a long time now. He used to trade on the exchange, too, but then he came to the firm conviction that it was impossible to make money here.

If it were that simple, everyone would be making money on forks by betting on sports. However, there are quite objective problems there too, namely:

1. bookmaker's offices are kitchens, and therefore the withdrawal of money for the forkists will be blocked sooner or later. All betting companies have a server to track the forwards. In other words, when in one office a bunch of people suddenly start betting on the same event outcome, it is obvious that they have found a fork and are trying to make some money on it. Such a fact will not go unnoticed - there are no fools among bookmakers.

2. You can also look for forks on the betting exchanges, but, to quote verbatim from the source Exchange Bookmaker's Calculator:

"It's quite clear that you're not the only bookmaker who wants to make money on the exchange. After all, it is not hard to figure that the income from a single match, even after deducting the commission, can reach several percent of the deposit. In order to get the same interest, for example from a deposit in a bank, you will have to wait for several months.




And if all your bets are accepted by the punters, the risk is zero. At this rate, there are plenty of people who want to make money that easily. Therefore, in order for the bookmakers' bets to be accepted by the players, someone will outbid your bets, and you will outbid someone else's...".

Let's say I also bet on sports and have an average positive profit. But not in that flashy way you are talking about, but by calculating the probabilities of outcomes and looking for line-distortions. For that you need to analyze line-up and odds, so you should have the appropriate knowledge, experience and time. Besides, you should not forget that counting sport odds is much more difficult than predicting on red and black at the casino or buy-sell at Forex. The principle of the exchange betting and the financial market is exactly the same, but in the first case the arithmetic is more complicated and without special software for this case on a simple calculator, let alone by intuition, nothing works. That is, anyone coming from the street in a bookmaker's office or betting exchange on the fly will not immediately understand what these rows of numbers in odds, notation of outcomes and other slang like: odds, handicap, total, parlay, corridor, overtake, etc. mean.

I.e. there are no miracles in Forex or anywhere else. You can hardly make a quick and easy withdrawal. You can foolishly lose your deposit here and there.

As for your so-called "friend" to whom you allegedly "refer", let him bring screenshots of payouts from bookmakers' offices, and we will look at them. Because there are a lot of complaints on how bookmakers block deposits of loss-takers on the Internet, but I haven't seen any published facts about withdrawal of money by these "successful" loss-takers. Most likely, your story about the miracles of raising the deposit in the betting shops is an interpretation of an advertisement for a service that sells forks.

 

Generally speaking, many people don't even realise when they talk about the so called betting odds between betting shops that they are, in fact, a sucker punch, rather than a form of income.

So that they don't fool around, I will explain the point.

Suppose the two bookmakers' offices overestimated odds of opposite outcomes of events, resulting in a fork between them. The parsers of the fork selling services calculated it and sent it to their subscribers by mailing. What will happen next?

As the fork has two outcomes, one of them will lose, the other one will win. I.e. one office, where bets will lose, will collect these same bets of fork-lovers, because they are lost, and will put them into its pocket. And what will the second office do? Pay out the winnings? Yeah, keep your pockets open. You will find all the wrong bidders (about this later) and block their deposits. In the best case it will do some work and return their deposits and even bets, but not their winnings. What is the result? The forked players are punished because in one office their bets went into the bookmaker's pocket, and in the other at nil, i.e. the final result is a loss.

Now about how they track down the betting oddsmen. If you have been on the websites of the services that sell fork mailings, you may have noticed that the table contains not only the names of the betting shops, but also "kindly provided" hyperlinks to them, and often referral links as well. In addition, many such services have banners from betting shops, which are also referral banners. Well, again, in the mailing list "kindly provided" referral hyperlinks.

Let's think with our heads. Let the bookmaker has an affiliate programme. But the link selling service is supposed to be "detrimental" as it publishes the bookmaker's forks. What then is the interest for the bookmaker to cooperate with such partners?

The interest is very direct. Suppose the sucker entered the service selling the divots. He finds an interesting one, clicks on the hyperlink and goes to the sites of the betting shops. The browser in the referral box always gives a hyperlink to the websites from which the transition has been made. Well, if you go to a betting shop from a service selling odds and ends, it is clear that it is a fake. When you are passing through mailing lists the browser does not show the information in the referral field, because the transfer is made either from a local computer or from a webmail. But the hyperlinks there are already referral links. In other words, the bookmaker uses the referral ID as a way of catching the forklifts. The banner on the site of the link selling service collects cookies. After going to the bookmaker's shop, they know where the loser has been and expect him to place his bets.

In general, no matter how you spin it, a sucker pays twice: the first time to the whip-selling service for mailing, and the second time to the office where his bets are lost.

This is the kind of "earning" advertised on the Internet.