"Trees don't grow to the sky" - page 32

 
Roman.:

Ahhhh...:-), I see now.
Here's the investment.... (what happens next...?) Trading has become quite different from the initial period not for the better... (and there are objective reasons - the passions of soul sickness)
 
Tantrik:
Here's the investment.... (what's next...?) Trading has become quite different from the initial period not for the better... (and there are objective reasons - soul sickness passions)

Yes. This is all understandable... Forming a portfolio... Moving on.
 
Mathemat:

Investors do not seem to have a very clear understanding of deposit load: many of them say that a maximum load of 30% indicates that the MC was still "oh so far away". This is not entirely true - especially in this particular situation.

Deposit load = Deposit / Equity * 100%.

If we take, for example, a 1000-bucks deposit and open a 0.1 lots position on EURUSD, the initial deposit load will be approximately 14.3%.

How many pips does EURUSD have to run against the position for the load to become 30%? Let's calculate: Deposit (143) / Equity * 100% = 30%. Hence, Equity = 143 * 100/30 = 477. So, the current loss is equal to 1,000 - 477 = 523 pips!

And for 50%? 714 points.

For 100% - 857 pips.

For stop out (500%) it's 971 pips.

Something I do not understand the definition of deposit load...

After all, at 523 pips minus in this example, the drawdown will already be more than 52% ! And the "load" is still 30% ?

Why is the load is calculated in a more forgiving way than the drawdown?

 
denis_orlov: Why is the load calculated in a more forgiving way than the drawdown?

Because it is a load, not a drawdown. And it depends on the points against the position in a highly non-linear way, unlike drawdown.

And the load can be greater than 100%, by the way.

 
Mathemat:
Because it is a load, not a drawdown. And it depends on points against the position in a very non-linear way, unlike drawdown.

25 again :))

that's what i'm asking you to explain what loading is, please. its practical meaning.

 

the ratio of collateral to equity - that's understandable...

But why is it more convenient and clearer than the loss/deposit ratio... although what difference does it make how you count losses, by load or by drawdown... :))))

 
It's not more convenient than that. It can even be disorienting - because of the non-linearity. Which is exactly what happened in the Unsinkable thread...
 
Mathemat:
It's not more convenient than that. It can even be disorienting - because of the non-linearity. Which is exactly what happened in the Unsinkable thread...
Invincible
 
Mathemat:

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Apologies for the nerdiness.

Alexei, there's no nerdiness. Everything is in order. You got it right: "There was only a little over 300 pips before the depo collapse. And EURCHF on August 9 went more than 6 figures from the opening of the day to the lowest point."

For my part I would like to add the following, from the words of the host of club days in DC "A.....and" dedicated to PAMM accounts, a specialist Sergei Rizhavin, the picture is as follows - this is about the profitability and loading a PAMM account manager deposit: 20-25% - loading DEP is the norm, with 100% loading DEP, enough to 100 real points to lose or double the DEP, with 50% loading - 200 points, with 30% loading DEP - 300 points - either lose or double the DEP.

The only thing is that they are in a hurry with the pictures ... :-)))), so to speak, they anticipated events ... :-))

Here's a picture (today...:-)))) looks much better:

Expect a surfacing with a slight take-off phase... :-))) With the downloading of the dep at the moment around 4%.


 
LeoV:

Do you think it is possible to have a crazy and endless equity growth of the 100-1000-10000% per month type? Is it possible to go from $100 or $1000 to tens of millions, or is it just a dream? Are there any traders who are making huge amounts of money all the time?

I want to go back to the very beginning of this conversation.

I believe that it is quite possible.

In order to reach 1000% over the course of a year, it is sufficient to take a profit of 1% of the deposit per day. For a deposit of 1,000 units. - it is only 10 units of profit per day. (For 10000% per annum you need a daily profit of 2% of the deposit).

The number of currency pairs offered by the dealers allows you to choose a pair (or pairs), which can provide a guaranteed desired profit every day.

Is it possible to program an Expert Advisor to look through all pairs and select a decent one for further work with it - I think it is possible, and this task is hardly unrealizable for a good programmer.