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Mathemat писал(а) >>

1. I have not 7, but many more "lines" of analysis. In the dollar alone there are 14. For the Euro, there are 12, and so on. Of course, this does not mean that I draw all these lines and admire the resulting rainbow. But increasing the number of "components" increases the reliability of the analysis.

I continue to show pictures

The solid green line is the same euro index...

The solid blue line is the MA(24) of the index ...

The dashed line is a standard deviation of the index components...

 
Figar0 >>

We have a chart in front of us, no instrument name, no specific prices, nothing, just candles:) Can we look at this with more than 50% probability of predicting further price development?

Is the problem correct, is there enough data to solve it and why?

The data (candlesticks) may not be enough, but the problem is correct...


you should first select a non-random component...

 
LProgrammer >> :

A halt, that's some nonsense, :))) You're talking...

I told you all before about Mr. Fourier and his decomposition... Why else would you cite any references? You're just some kind of frankly radio amateur... :))

I was also saying that the goal is not to determine the fuckin' sperkt. :)) Which you're just wiping yourself with... And of which you can not gather anything beyond the range on which you have decomposed the signal ... Did I or did I not tell you about the perfect filter? Do you know what it is? It's a tough job dragging the behemoth out of the swamp... Start with the basics... :)

Next, while talking to you, note respectfully, for I hope that you are sincerely mistaken, in those matters in which you should rather understand the mathematics ... So, next - to explain... At kindergarten level...

there is a signal - you decomposed it into some sinusoids (don't know that it was made of fucking sinusoids! :) ) getting these sinusoids you got nothing... It's a zero result... Do you hear me? These sine waves just draw a signal... the same shape... They're just repeating, but ONLY in the time range that you're drawing it in. Just because you found a way to draw the signal, you've still found a way to continue it.... I don't even know how to explain it to you - I'm afraid I'm starting to get frustrated... shit... In a word, here's the problem, take a line segment, from zero to 10... The function is something like kx + c... And break it down into a Fourier series... And continue it beyond those grunts. By the way, just so you know - grand conditions apply to diff. equations as well... :)) Well so as a result you will receive, not at all direct going further...

Now for the filter phase... Oh, Prival, how you don't know how much you're a bit of a swimmer when it comes to filters... :) Well, practically none of the drying filters gives the right phase... They all distort it... They lag...

In a word, all of them... I'm tired of trying to explain - what do you want from me? :) I told you, you're a genius... I'm a shit, I'm no forex either... :) leave me alone... That's it, you win, just remember to invite me to the award ceremony...

God, I guess I was wrong about you the most. :) That's all I can tell you. You're a genius. Stop. I'm shit. You're right, I'm wrong. End of story?

You, LProgrammer, are right. And Prival is wrong. The problem is that he and 100,000+ others are deep in their delusions. That's all there is to it!

 
AlexEro >> :

You, LProgrammer, are right. And Prival is wrong. The problem is that he and 100,000+ others are deep in their delusions. That's all there is to it!

I claim you're a clown.

LProgrammer and 100,000+ other people are deep in their delusions about phase delay filters

 
sab1uk >> :

I claim you're a clown.

LProgrammer and 100,000+ others are bogged down in delusions about phase delay filters

Sir, don't you know that in our circle of tough bankers it is customary to address each other exclusively with the word "YOU"? And I hear a note of disrespect and even - I dare say - mockery in your words, sir! Am I right?!

 
AlexEro писал(а) >>

You, LProgrammer, are right. And Prival is wrong. The problem is that he and 100,000+ others are deep in their delusions. That's all there is to it!

You know, I often find it funny when people try to explain to me what has long been known and do not understand what I am talking about (I understand them perfectly well). I have a monograph devoted to spectral processing methods, scientific works and research in this field.And you are trying to make a fool of me. I am a fool and you are right...

Z.Y. Your delusions are more true than mine :-))

 
Prival писал(а) >>

You know, I often find it funny how people try to explain to me what has long been known and do not understand what I am talking about (I understand them perfectly well).

And before you, Sergei, you could have been burned at the stake!

Yeah... Times change, but people do not. It's an interesting world we live in, comrades.

 
Prival >> :

You know, I often find it funny when people try to explain to me what has long been known and do not understand what I am talking about (I understand them perfectly well). I have a monograph devoted to spectral processing methods, scientific works and research in this field.And you are trying to make a fool of me. I am a fool and you are right...

Z.Y. Your delusions are more true than mine :-))

And it's funny to read about monographs and scientific works, especially about the fact that you, my dear, "stood" at the origins of NS (you weren't born yet). Do you think that only you have all this listed junk? :о)

 
grasn писал(а) >>

And I find it funny to read about monographs and scientific works, especially about the fact that you, my dear, "stood at the origins" of NS (you were not alive then). Do you think that only you have all the listed junk? :о)

Maybe we just think differently about where this theory comes from. Where its origins lie.

I was involved in work on recognition in the 80's. I saw how ideas were created, programmed, tested and tested in practice. Then I saw some of these ideas implemented in FineReader. At that time, a lot of money was poured into this research. And I believe that NS came out of the theory of recognition, separated into a separate branch, the most productive of which turned out to be the theory of pattern recognition. In the USSR, if you remember , the most advanced developments tried to implement in the military field (for example, the task is to recognise from an image whether it is a tank or a tractor, a BMP or an APC), we recognise it and choose a type of weapon, decide whether to hit or not, etc.

It was only later that these algorithms were applied for peaceful purposes. To distinguish the letter A from the letter B. At that time, all the works in the field were closed, and who did what was a closely guarded secret, nowadays they shout "artificial intelligence" on every corner. They didn't know such words then.

I consider FineReader one of the most successful uses of NS, and I think it's no coincidence that this product was the first to appear in Russia. From a mathematical point of view, the procedure for recognizing a BMP from an APC, does not differ from the recognition of the letters A, B, etc.

Z.Z.I. Specially looked - self-organizing map Kohonen was proposed by Finnish scientist Teuvo Kohonen in 1984. The same time we were working on it and we have not heard about any Kohonen.

By the way I do not consider myself a specialist in the field of NS, simply, I know the theory of recognition, we were taught it and we were beaten like a goat. Some knowledge from those times remained. I wrote a private email here to get some help with NS. Gave me some lessons. You can ask Neutron for help.

If you think you are an expert in the NS and you have time, I am ready to take lessons from you, I am even ready to pay for them.

 
To Prival

Then yes, differently consider the beginning of history. The neuron model was proposed in the 40s. I really don't understand what Mr. Cohen is doing in your narrative. Yes, he proposed one of the very good clustering methods, but what does it have to do with recognition? Cognitrons, developed back in the 70s, are commonly used for recognition. Recognition was necessarily used in conjunction with sophisticated DSP methods, before recognition, the photo was "processed".

PS: I can't say of myself that I'm a teacher. It's a great gift that I'm apparently not endowed with in the right measure.