Buy a stable earning advisor - page 3

 
prostojparen >> :

It is a pleasure to hear your opinion as a high-class specialist. As far as I understand, if you are sincere in this case, there is no such thing as an advisor offering a 100% return on investment?

And all this fuss with Expert Advisors, optimizations, various strategies and neural networks, championships, etc. It is nothing else but virtual games, and for real earnings on Forex (I mean traders) it makes absolutely no sense. And who does not understand that (like me) he makes a fool of himself and a clown.

Did I get your idea right?

There are EAs that can make 100% in a day or even in a couple of hours. But the point is not how much profit they can bring in, but what they risk, i.e. what is the probability, depth and duration of drawdowns, what is the probability of a margin call.


Since the probability of drawdowns and margin call is not zero, the stability of earnings with any strategy has a probability not equal to 1 (not 100%). And therefore we have to survive drawdowns, sometimes very long and sometimes very deep.


To have a stable earning Expert Advisor, it is necessary and sufficient to meet the following conditions:


1. It is a financial instrument with stable quotes.

2. Reliable broker that will execute the orders precisely, on time and without cheating, for example, not to periodically change quoting filters on the server, because of the change of which an artificial non-stationarity is created.

3. a reliable and stable connection to the server of the broker itself



The 3pc may not be necessary if the strategy is pivot based.


If you have all three above components available, there is no need even to buy a stably profitable Expert Advisor. You can build it yourself or get it ready from Code Base (in extreme cases, you can order it for a small fee compared to the payoff).

 
prostojparen писал(а) >>

And all this mouse fiddling with experts, optimisations, various strategies and neural networks, championships, etc. It is nothing else but virtual games, and for real earnings on Forex (I mean traders) it makes absolutely no sense. And who does not understand that (like me) he makes a fool of himself and a clown.

Have I understood your point correctly?

It's not that sad. There are Expert Advisors that can earn money, but there are a few points.

1) Not all of them are for sale, those that are for sale are not so easy to find and recognize, you need to be a fairly skilled trader and to have experience working with EAs in MT4. And almost always they are inferior to pseudo-graphs by their advertising and characteristics, which are only good for making money by selling them.

2) For profitable work the Expert Advisor needs high-quality service (training/optimization, data preparation, changing for the changing trade conditions, etc.). In other words, being a "blonde" housewife with three grades of education, you can't buy a program that makes you rich. (I didn't want to offend any blondes or housewives).

3) There are many relatively profitable pipsips advisors (almost all can be found on the Internet), but there are many problems when using them, it is not suitable for everyone and not for every deposit.

 
Reshetov >> :

There are EAs which may reach 100% a day or even within a couple of hours. But the point is not how much profit they can bring, but in what they risk, i.e. what is the probability, depth and duration of drawdowns, what is the probability of margin call.


Since the probability of drawdowns and margin call is not zero, the stability of earnings with any strategy has a probability not equal to 1 (not 100%). Therefore, we have to survive drawdowns, sometimes very long and sometimes very deep.


To have a stable earning Expert Advisor, it is necessary and sufficient to meet the following conditions:


1. It is a financial instrument with stable quotes.

2. Reliable broker that will execute the orders precisely, on time and without cheating, for example, not to periodically change quoting filters on the server, because of the change of which an artificial non-stationarity is created.

3. a reliable and stable connection to the server of the broker itself



The 3pc may not be necessary if the strategy is pivot based.


If you have all three above components available, there is no need even to buy a stably profitable Expert Advisor. You may compile it yourself or get it from Code Base (if not, you may order it for a small fee in comparison with its efficiency).

Well, this is getting warmer. The fact that any strategy can have drawdowns and no win zones, it goes without saying. And the way the strategy behaves in different phases is also clear and with optimization. .....

Nowhere did I say "every day 0.5% on the upside".

The conditions for the trading are typical. Average usually expands at night and for the news.

Now about "Build it yourself or get it ready from the Code Base ". Excuse me, - but I realized it's not my business. I'd rather go to a specialist, like you.

If you have a stomach ache you go to the doctor. But you could read anatomy, physiology, pharmacology, and treat yourself. No, it's dangerous, you can cure yourself.

That's how I am. I cannot make a good adviser, and the more so for TC. I will find something I think appropriate, or assemble it from the pieces. I have also tried it on the tester, it seems nice, but when I start working on the demo it pisses me off. I have no reason to talk about real trading.

I am fed up with all this fiddling, that is why I published the ad.

If you can help me in any way, I will be very grateful to you.

 
Figar0 >> :

It's not that sad, there are EAs capable of making money, but there are a few things.

1) Not all of them are for sale, the ones that are for sale are not so easy to find and recognize, you need to be a fairly skilled trader and to have experience working with EAs in MT4. And almost always they yield to pseudo-graphs by their advertising and characteristics, which are only good for making money by selling them.

2) For profitable work the Expert Advisor needs high-quality service (training/optimization, data preparation, changing for the changing trade conditions, etc.). In other words, being a "blonde" housewife with three grades of education, you can't buy a program that makes you rich. (I didn't want to offend any blondes or housewives).

3) I have many relatively profitable Pips Expert Advisors (almost all can be found on the Internet), but they cause many problems and they are not suitable for everybody and not for every deposit.

Thank you very much for your clever thoughts.

On p1) pay.ru not go. I do not go to pay-rouble, all of them are cheating.

To p2) I am not a blonde with 3 grades but an engineer.

On p3) If they had given a link or a gontact for something sensible, it would have been a lot easier.

 
Ran my Expert Advisor from 01.12.2006 to 31.12.2008 initial deposit of 100 quid final 449.86. My Expert Advisor is not optimized. Do you want it?)
 
prostojparen >> :

If you can help me in any particular way, I would be very grateful.


https://championship.mql4.com/2008/ru/users/download?user=16584&cat=1&y=2008&file=German.mq4


Try this one on H4 or D1 - optimize every 2 weeks - might like it




https://c.mql4.com/forum/2008/04/Anitidote.ex4


also interesting - I need to ask Yuri to open the code

 
arnautov >> :
Ran my advisor from 01.12.2006 to 31.12.2008 initial deposit 100 quid final 449.86. Expert Advisor is not optimized. >>:)


I have no problem with it on the tester, but how does it behave on the real account?

 
prostojparen >> :

>> it's not a problem to run it in the tester, but how does it behave in real life?

You can't always trust the tester. I've had two huge drawdowns in my tester in the last couple of months, but I'm doing fine on my real account.

 
Zet1972 >> :

https://championship.mql4.com/2008/ru/users/download?user=16584&cat=1&y=2008&file=German.mq4


Try this one on H4 or D1 - optimise every 2 weeks - might like it




https://c.mql4.com/forum/2008/04/Anitidote.ex4


>> also interesting - ask Yuri to open the code

Thank you so much for your support

 
prostojparen >> :

It's not a problem to run in the Strategy Tester, but how does it behave on the real account?

Yes exactly the same. The Expert Advisor is a long-term one and works with pending orders. 59 trades in total during 2 years. The biggest one is a bit over 2000 pips profit. the maximum loss is 650 pips.

>> that's if you don't put any stops. If with stops see the championship. >>) :. :)

As you can see 100% a year is not a big problem to show. But it doesn't make it any easier.