Wishes for holders of the Forum "Let's create a serious forum for serious people" - page 6

 
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There was a request in the thread to remove the flooding. I was asked a question about the abbreviation DVVAIU, which, as it turns out, we graduated from together with the author of the thread. I answered the question and then deleted my post because I thought it was floodood (the main thing is that the author of the question read it). So it was not moderators, and I myself deleted my post. But the joy of the creator of the branch that we were studying together has remained.

That's what I am talking about the "fragility" of the edges.

 
sergeev:

Xadviser, https://forum.mql4.com/ru/9597

There's another Renate reject there.

The administration makes it clear that there is no and will not be any systematization.

It is up to the administration to decide of course. However, as the activity of (so far) participants shows, they (so far) care about this issue. If it arises, it means there are some difficulties in the functioning of the forum. And if they arise, it means that not everything is smooth. We propose to solve them (the difficulties) through the submission of their proposals to the administration. How it will be implemented and what means and methods of implementation is not up to us and maybe it's for the best. Everyone keeps his own house in order by himself. In that thread https://forum.mql4.com/ru/9597, you and other participants who support the thread, were given useful suggestions. But look how many "dissatisfied" there were then and now, and not much time has passed.

Let the administration act on their strategic plan, but they need to act "yesterday". I have the opinion of many (traders mainly) who have been recommended the resource: "There is a lot of information, but it's a mess". Of course, it is not decisive. However IMHO it weakens the position of a resource and causes outflow of valuable opinions from participants and participants.

Renat 29.11.2007 13:20 We have a long-term strategy for the development of MQL4.community.
From the beginning we have set the only direction of our site to be the discussion of trading automation using MQL4. We have not and will not do any special forum subdivisions as everything must be subject to one idea only - automated trading.


In my opinion, trade automation is impossible without trade itself. That's why the resource must be perceived by both technical specialists and traders. (symbiosis is a rare phenomenon).

Below are some excerpts from the sore points

granit77 29.11.2007 13:38

If this appeal is not a mere courtesy, I would like to draw your attention to the lag in the Code Base development compared to
compared to other parts of the MQL4.community. The lack of author's comments and reviews of the published scripts greatly reduces the
the usefulness of the section. However, there are examples of excellent author's comments, but they are very few.

There was already a small discussion on this subject: ' BollTrade '.

Sart 29.11.2007 14:30


Moreover, in principle, the ideas themselves are much more valuable than their implementation in the form of code. Without a description of ideas underlying the code, the usefulness of the code itself is close to zero.
Sincerely yours - S.D.


Aleksey24 29.11.2007 15:51

TO: MODERATORS.

Generally speaking the convenience of following the forum has been reduced to a minimum.

I, for one, have practically stopped following the forum (and would like to) as the current version is for people who simply have nowhere to spend their time.

"Following the thread" doesn't stand up to any criticism.

Messages are sent haphazardly, at random times, and duplicated.

The author of a branch sergeev wrote almost entirely on 29.11.2007 11:15
https://forum.mql4.com/ru/9597

ForexTools 11.04.2008 12:07 It would be nice to be able to moderate your own threads. So that you can throw out the trash that is not relevant to the topic.

Of all the aforementioned (written) participants can be divided into three aspects.

  1. technical
  2. ideological
  3. human

If they are competently linked, everything will be OK.

P.S. I didn't want the resource to become a "dumping ground" for codes

 
ForexTools:

It would also be nice to be able to moderate your own threads. So that you can throw out the rubbish that is not relevant to the topic. For example, look here, in the announcement of the topic says why it is created.

Absolutely not. This will be a feast for the sellers of fake grails, of which there are already many. And this will be pure honey and no criticism.

 
Figar0:
ForexTools:

It would also be nice to be able to moderate your own threads. So that you can throw out the rubbish that is not relevant to the topic. For example, look here, in the announcement of the topic says why it is created.

Absolutely not. This will be a feast for the sellers of fake grails, of which there are already many. It will be pure honey and no criticism.

I am talking about the HUMAN (read moral) aspect. Everything is on the conscience of the individual, and the conscience of individuals unfortunately varies greatly.

 
Xadviser:

Below are some excerpts from the most acute problems

granit77 29.11.2007 13:38

If this appeal is not a mere courtesy, I want to draw your attention to the backlog in the Code Base development, compared to
in comparison to other sections of the MQL4.community. The lack of author's comments and reviews of the published scripts greatly reduces
the usefulness of the section. However, there are some examples of excellent author's comments, but they are very few.

There has already been a little discussion on this subject: ' BollTrade '.

Who do you think should write these comments?

The same BollTrade, like most indicators and EAs in the database, was posted by Scriptor. He is not the author, he doesn't know anything about the programs he posts, except that they show something that seems fun and/or interesting. He simply found the program on the open Internet, checked for formal correctness of the code and stuck it in the database. The real authors are often not members of this forum and are physically unable to comment on the program. If you like the picture, take it and figure it out for yourself, if you don't want to think with your own brain, just pass by.

Before you roll out a "proposal for improvement", you should stop and think how to practically implement your proposal. Otherwise, it turns out, "I give valuable advice about what's important, and they are stupid / lazy not to do anything".

ForexTools 11.04.2008 12:07 Another thing I would really like to be able to somehow moderate my own threads that you created. So that you can throw out the trash that is not relevant to the topic.

There was a long discussion on this topic - https://forum.mql4.com/ru/9579

A quick summary: the person who made the first post in a thread is not the author of that thread, he's an equal member just like those who made the second, third, thirty-third post... And he has no right to delete and/or moderate anything in that thread.

 
timbo:

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ForexTools 11.04.2008 12:07 It would be nice to be able to moderate your own threads. So that you can throw out the trash that is not relevant to the subject.

There was a long discussion on this topic - https://forum.mql4.com/ru/9579

A quick summary: the person who made the first post in a thread is not the author of that thread, he's an equal member just like those who made the second, third, thirty-third post... And he has no right to delete and/or moderate anything in that thread.



I completely agree, there is still a big difference between a forum, an article, or editing a dialogue/interview in some glamour magazine.

 
timbo:

granit77 29.11.2007 13:38

If this call is not a mere courtesy, I would like to draw your attention to the lag in development of Code Base, compared to
in comparison to other parts of the MQL4.community. The lack of author's comments and reviews of the published scripts greatly reduces the
the usefulness of the section.

Who do you think should write these comments?

Of course, it's best if the author or the person who posted it is the best. Then the Code Base won't become a code dump. Or you can divide it into two parts with and without comments. See which will be more popular.
 
Xadviser:
Of course, it would be better if the author or the one who posted it. Then Code Base will not turn into a code dump.

"Best of all" would be if MQ starts sending money immediately to the accounts of those who downloaded their terminal.

I say that life is such that the author is not known and the one who posted doesn't know anything about this program at all, what comments do you want to get from him?

And you can divide it into two parts with and without comments. See which one will be more popular.

Zhirinovsky is more popular, but it's not a fact that he's more useful.

Not interested in the codes without comments, so skip them, will be a virtual division of the base.

Just in case you miss the grail?

 

I also have a desire to improve the forum. At work, I often turn off graphics to save traffic. But with graphics turned off it's almost impossible to see new topics. All in one colour and font. It is necessary to separate somehow. At least in font. Bold and non-bold.

 
timbo писал (а): If you're not interested in codes without comments, then skip them...

You are defending the status quo in the Code Base, which is very vulnerable.

1. Scriptor is moving code from another site, where it is in a big pile. This pile is now gradually moved into the Code Base without any changes or comments. In this form it is called: "Bad work, God help you!". Give me a link to the source site and the annual plan is done.

2. Scriptor writes: "I've written many times that this is part of my job. And all the indicators, expert advisors, etc. is a turnover. But in fact, I do much more important work for this site.

This is about who should write these comments. If the codes are posted by site staff, as the quote suggests,

then it's part of his job.

If it's "self-posting", it's easier to limit yourself to a link, it's more honest, rather than feigning business activity and inflating volumes.