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Yuriy Zaytsev:
Forex "brokers" decent and indecent, they mostly live off of losing deposits.
Not on the spread )

I would add - they live off the deposits we make. Not just on the spread. Our deposits are free money for the broker. We don't have to pay annual interest on them because they are not borrowed funds. And you don't have to charge interest on the deposit. A good business model indeed. But we are (supposedly) mutually interested ? Is the interest decent or indecent?

 
Aleksandr Milyayev:

I would add - they live off the deposits we make. Not just on spreads. Our deposits are free money for the broker. You don't have to pay annual interest on them, because they are not borrowed funds. And you don't have to charge interest on the deposit. A good business model indeed. But we are (supposedly) mutually interested ? Is the interest decent or indecent ?

It's only in extreme dumps where segregated accounts are not practiced

 
As for the pluses and minuses of our trades going to interbank or overlapping inside a brokerage company - what difference does it make to us? What do we need from a brokerage company? What we need is for the order to open and close at the requested price and we get our earnings credited and paid on the real account.
About the statement that brokerage companies live by losing deposits... Then at whose expense will the trader profit be credited? And if this profit is more than the number of lost deposits? - We traders do not care about that. We want to be credited with our honestly earned money, and we need to be able to withdraw them for real trading.
If all orders are transmitted to the interbank and not inside the brokerage company, who then lives on lost deposits and if there are more of them than earned ones? In this case who will pay for our honestly earned money if traders' profit will exceed the amount of lost deposits?
We, traders, do not give a shit. We just need to be honestly given back. We have honestly drained them, and we do not give a fuck about them (or rather not give a fuck - it is pity for the one who gets hit).


 
Shoker:
As for the pluses and minuses of our trades going to interbank or overlapping inside a brokerage company - what difference does it make to us? What do we need from a brokerage company? What we need is for the order to open and close at the requested price and we get our earnings credited and paid on the real account.
About the statement that brokerage companies live by losing deposits... Then at whose expense will the trader profit be credited? And if this profit is more than the number of lost deposits? - We traders do not care about that. We want to be credited with our honestly earned money, and we need to be able to withdraw them for real trading.
If all orders are transmitted to the interbank and not inside the brokerage company, who then lives on lost deposits, provided that there are more of them than earned ones? In this case who will pay for our honestly earned money, if traders' profit exceeds the amount of lost deposits?
We, traders, do not give a shit. We just need to be honestly given back. And what, where, and who will take what we have lost - we have honestly lost them, and we do not give a shit about them (or rather not give a shit - it is pity for the one who got hit).


The difference between playing against other players or playing against a casino.

For many, it's a significant difference.

 
Shoker:
As for the pluses and minuses of our trades going to interbank or overlapping inside a brokerage company - what difference does it make to us? What do we need from a brokerage company? What we need is for the order to open and close at the requested price and we get our earnings credited and paid on the real account.
About the statement that brokerage companies live by losing deposits... Then at whose expense will the trader profit be credited? And if this profit is more than the number of lost deposits? - We traders do not care about that. We want to be credited with our honestly earned money, and we need to be able to withdraw them for real trading.
If all orders are transmitted to the interbank and not inside the brokerage company, who then lives on lost deposits, provided that there are more of them than earned ones? In this case who will pay for our honestly earned money if traders' profit will exceed the amount of lost deposits?
We, traders, do not give a shit. We just need to be honestly given back. But what, where, and who will take what we have lost - we have honestly lost them and we do not give a fuck about them (or rather not give a fuck - it is pity for the one who got hit).


You know what a lock is?

one loses to the other, that's the system

It's a condition for its existence: buying equals selling.

There are other options.

but history is silent ;)

 
JRandomTrader:

The difference in playing against other players or playing against a casino.

For many, it's a significant difference.

Seven years of casino experience - I know the difference

 
Renat Akhtyamov:

You know what a lock is?

one loses to the other, that's the whole system.

the prerequisite for its existence: buying equals selling.

there are other options.

but history is silent on that ;)

Don't try to answer the context taken out of thought - the whole post is one question.

In this case the question is precisely that if orders are not taken to interbank and there are not enough lots to pay for profits, then who pays for the profits? After all, the size of a profit is not limited to the size of a lock.

 
Shoker:

Don't try to answer the context taken out of thought - the whole post is one question.

In this case the question is: if the orders are not moved to the interbank and there are not enough lots to pay for the profit, then who pays for the profit? After all, the size of a profit is not limited to the size of a lock.

You see, delta is for the interbank and nothing else.
 
Aleksandr Milyayev:

This will work well if the support for the paper on the fall below is strong enough. What if the price falls back down again after a while? Do we still buy ?

I usually do not deal with cutlets, I always have some free funds, I use averaging, not marting and only within my funds. If I deal with cutlet, of course I use stop.

In addition, usually entry points are at levels with large volume, most often there is a reversal.

I had a bad entry on Surgutneftegaz and I have been standing since 2018, I averaged it, I already withdrew dividends amounting to 40% of the asset... One year 20% second 20% third not so much, but with large volume 40% is significant.

In fact you don't even need to trade 20% per annum is very good in the stock market.

Surgutneftegaz keeps a lot of its funds in foreign currency, they are great as diversification.

 

Hand trading can be simulated using Python and the pyautogui library

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