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Even with a Martin there is a TS. That's just to assess its balance is difficult because martin kaffaliruyut drawdowns, assess drawdowns on equity and you'll see the excess risks in martin.
Just martingale postpones the moment of ruin, making it binary (you are not ruined in this drawdown, so another dollar in the plus), rather than continuous, as in the work with a fixed lot.
Working with a fixed lot we can estimate a real expected payoff; by adding an MM we camouflage the real expected payoff.
So martingale may be used if the system has been evaluated by a fixed lot (those are profits in points) and statistics allows us to expect that there will be no bankruptcy having screwed in the martin.
It would be appropriate to say that the first evaluation of TS for a future martin is a Z-account.
Although I personally am not a follower of this MM.
As for the inevitable plum: In one article I read that the main thing to withdraw money in a timely manner and then, when the system has worked out the money invested in it, withdraw them and play on the money has already received a profit hoping for luck and from time to time continuing to withdraw money leaving the base amount.
I have not checked how well (or badly) it works, but the idea is good, minus that reinvestment of profits is excluded, but something has to be sacrificed...
i'm not an adherent of martin. and yes i agree 100% that sooner or later martin will lose the entire deposit. this outcome is inevitable. i just wanted to say that the essence of martin in MM, whatever the system is, and to evaluate TS with a constant lot in order to screw in the future martin has no sense. this is another movie. they turn to martingale in desperation, seeing that no system with a constant lot does not work, then they go for this "cheat".
As for the inevitable plum: In one article I read that the main thing to withdraw money in a timely manner and then, when the system has worked out the money invested in it, withdraw them and play on the money has already received a profit hoping for luck and from time to time continuing to withdraw money leaving the base amount.
I have not checked how well (or badly) it works, but the idea is good, minus that reinvestment of profits is excluded, but you have to sacrifice something...
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i'm not an advocate of martin. and yes i agree 100% that sooner or later martin will lose the entire deposit. this is an inevitable outcome. i just wanted to say that the essence of martin in MM, whatever the system is, and to evaluate TS with a fixed lot in order to screw up in the future martin makes no sense. this is another movie. people turn to martingale in desperation, seeing that no system with a fixed lot, then they go for this "cheat".
As for the inevitable plum: In one article I read that the main thing to withdraw money in a timely manner and then, when the system has worked out the money invested in it, withdraw them and play on the money has already received a profit hoping for luck and from time to time continuing to withdraw money leaving the base amount.
I have not checked how well (or badly) it works, but the idea is good, minus that reinvestment of profits is excluded, but something has to be sacrificed...
It won't work, it's just a lure. Eventually a series of losses causes Kolyan. Martingale can be attached if there are reasonable results for this MM. And it seems to me that we can find a better one for such series.
In general, I suspect that the martin was invented by the casino, it's very well camouflages the real trade statistics (and what the casino needs from the player that he was under the illusion that everything is going fine).
Regardingthe inevitable plummet: Consider the issue of bankruptcy player is not in one session and in several. Came a man in the casino, played a martin and won (fine, but at the same time reinforced the view that martin works), came the second third and won, came to the fourth and lost!!! The very martin this system is based on otigrypiv, draw draw away. And that means this principle will lead the player to a new and new session in the casino, until it goes bankrupt tk expectation is negative. By the way, there are players who apply martin not only to play but also to the session if the past session was losing, this he plays with large bets chipping away at the past. As a result, the time comes when you have to mortgage.
A slight edge of 1/37 on the casino does the trick. And martin just camouflages the real expectation, creating the illusion that it is higher in fact.
In general, I suspect that the martin was invented by the casino, it's very well camouflages the real trade statistics (and the casino needs the player to be in the illusion that everything goes well).
Regardingthe inevitable plummet: Consider the issue of ruining the player is not in one session, but in several. Came a man in the casino, played a martin and won (fine, but at the same time reinforced the view that martin works), came the second third and won, came to the fourth and lost!!! The very martin is a system based on otigrypiv, prorozhdal otbey. And that means this principle will lead the player to a new and new session in the casino, until it goes bankrupt tk expectation is negative. By the way, there are players who apply martin not only to play but also to the session if the past session was losing, this he plays with large bets chipping away at the past. As a result, the time comes when you have to mortgage.
A slight edge of 1/37 on the casino does the trick. But martin just camouflages the real expectation, creating the illusion that it is higher in fact.
what about your tests? what does the empirical evidence say about martingale? have you found the coveted gRAAL in it?
you're making a big deal out of this... the reputation of Martin and this thread is at risk... the reputation of this thread is threatened. all sides are making bold attacks on martingale. the experts say that it's all bullshit
what about your tests? what does the empirical evidence say about the martin's performance? have you found the coveted gRAAL in it?
Good afternoon!
Everybody uses martin. Even Moscow millionaire traders use martingale. But the whole point is that they first have - a signal indicator 2-3 pcs (which give 70-90% of the correct signal at times of H4 and above) . And they use the martin - only as a gradual increase in load + the maximum profit. And at the arrival of the opposite signal they close their positions.
One rich trader ordered such a martin.
For sure, you may be right, but don't forget to set a couple of indicators that give 90% of correct signals.
and why are you blowing the whistle? it has long been known that as soon as critical volumes are traded according to certain principles - the market changes and the principles stop working