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Shit, only now I understood what maze of computer technology reworkings the developers face when switching to analogue rails:

1. In digital systems, there is no tight control of conductor parameters, but in analogue systems, length, material, cross-sectional area, temperature, voltage all play a part in resistance and all must be taken into account.

2. To be fair, a digital board can't be suitable for analog computer equipment, it has different characteristics and requirements from the very beginning.

3. For mass, streaming production, you will need new specialists, standards, machines, plants, industry...

Yes...)

 
Реter Konow:
As for radio noise, I'm certainly not an expert in radio engineering, but the problem is solved by using a metal mesh frame with a smaller mesh size than the wavelength applied around the conductor. I think so, I can't remember anymore...
Those aren't the problems, the stability issues are bigger at those sizes. And the cost of the microcircuits.
 

Nets can already write programmes

 
And so:

1. Number transmission/storage and number operation is the essence of computer operation.

2. A number is encoded using two possible methods: digital and analogue.

3. Binary expression of a number is a series of direct DC pulses obtained by rectifying AC, assembled into a set of bits and standardised for computation.

4. analogue number expression - amplitude height of AC - continuous, both-way flow of electrons pushed by the motion of a conductor in a magnetic field.

5. Digital technology is ubiquitously developed and implemented, and analogue technology is withdrawn from domestic use.

6. The advantages of digital technology are its unpretentiousness and versatility, but analogue technology is full of problems. In theory, it could be many times faster, because it doesn't waste time on bit coding and sequential transmission, but presents the number directly through the amplitude, but in practice, it causes problems because of the sensitivity of the conductors to the environment and the binding to many parameters.

It's difficult to think of a fully analogue computer, although it would undoubtedly be orders of magnitude faster than a digital one.
 
Rorschach:

Nets can already write programmes

There is a big difference between what a person is going to do and what he has already done). The guy is good, but to write programmes, the net has to be able to think, and that is a long way off.
 
Реter Konow:
There is a big difference between what one is going to do and what one has already done). The guy is good, but to write software, the network has to think, and that is a long way off.

Visual programming can be done with voice control

 
Реter Konow:
And so:

1. Number transmission/storage and number operation is the essence of computer operation.

2. A number is encoded using two possible methods: digital and analogue.

3. The binary expression of a number is a series of direct DC pulses obtained by AC rectification, assembled into a set of bits and standardised for computation.

4. Analog number expression - amplitude height of AC - continuous, both-way flow of electrons pushed by the motion of a conductor in a magnetic field.

5. Digital technology is ubiquitously developed and implemented, and analogue technology is withdrawn from domestic use.

6. The advantages of digital technology are its unpretentiousness and versatility, but analogue technology is full of problems. In theory, it could be times faster, because it doesn't waste time with bit coding and serial transmission, but presents the number directly in amplitude, but in practice, it causes problems because of the sensitivity of the conductors to the environment and the binding to many parameters.

It's hard to imagine a fully analogue computer although it would undoubtedly be orders of magnitude faster than a digital one.

It's all about transistors and their ability to retain residual charge. (This is what led to the development of all kinds of flash drives and programmable processors - which is what we're using now). So far, there are no candidates for the transistor replacement at all - except for the quantum one.

It should be understood that although the speed of electrons is low - but in the network we use the electromagnetic wave itself - which travels almost at the speed of light. In essence one task is done almost instantaneously - despite the number of transistors that are involved (really not far behind the speed of light). Much longer takes time to prepare and write new code - and a pause between these intervals, and even added bit rate means there is something like a pause between them too. But if you think what happens in the CPU - every instant there is a setting of current for transistors to perform a new task - and they change with an unreal frequency. The trick with the numbers (transistors) is to quickly rewrite your own code. And so far there is no analogue. There is only attempt to reduce number of rewrites by putting in once andy and setting high coefficients (but it is only for certain tasks and no more).

 
Valeriy Yastremskiy:
These are not the problems, the stability issues are bigger at this size. And the cost of the microcircuits.
True, but you can't make one chip here either, because you can't make a "partially" analogue comp (or can you?). That is, they have to create an analogue comp from scratch, according to the idea. And then, put it into a production facility that pays for itself. They have to "grow" their boards, otherwise they will go bankrupt.
 
Alexandr Andreev:

It's all about transistors and their ability to retain residual charge. (This is what led to the development of all kinds of flash cards and programmable processors - which is what we are using now). So far, there are no candidates for the transistor replacement at all - except for the quantum one.

It should be understood that although the speed of electrons is low - but in the network we use the electromagnetic wave itself - which travels almost at the speed of light. In essence one task is done almost instantaneously - despite the number of transistors that are involved (really not far behind the speed of light). It takes much longer to prepare and write new code - and a pause between these intervals, and even added bit rate means there is something like a pause between them too. But if you think what happens in the processor - every instant it sets transistors for a new task - and they change with unreal frequency. The trick with the numbers (transistors) is to quickly rewrite your own code. And so far there is no analogue. There is only attempt to reduce number of rewrites by putting in once andi and setting high coefficients (but it is only for certain tasks and no more).

Speaking of transistors, you'll need to modify them for analog board to work too. After all, transistors store bits - i.e. "bits of a number", while you will need to store the whole number as a voltage (like a battery), because the analog number is the current amplitude, not an interrupt.
 
Rorschach:

Visual programming can be done with voice control

Yes, it can be done. Right. And even better, through a neural interface.
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