Machine learning in trading: theory, models, practice and algo-trading - page 3540

 
sibirqk #:
Explain.
Look carefully at the second picture, if you don't see any useful properties in the synthetic range then I will write down
 
mytarmailS #:
Look carefully at the second picture, if you don't see any useful properties in the synthetic series, I'll write it down.
There's smoothing without lag. No?
 
sibirqk #:
It's smoothing without lag. No?

No.

there's no smoothing and there's no lag.

But you can say there is a filtering of the trend noise.

You can see in the picture

that on the original the price goes up with noise, and on the reconstructed series you can see that all candles are "white" and you can filter by this feature.


property #2

Even more interesting...

pay attention to the candles with gaps


 
mytarmailS #:

I wondered if it is possible to train AMO on indicators and oscillators to restore OHLC prices.

I submitted about 40 indicators and oscillators, trained linear regression....

It restored perfectly.


and this is what price recovery looks like from only two indicators RSI and SMA.

pretty good, but with a note that there is nothing to restore.

The price is explicitly present in the indicators. That is, you can take the calculated formulas and allow them back. If you have enough indicators, you can explicitly get the transition matrix (readings=>price).

but there is a nuance - for the case of RSI/SMA an interesting point: AMO implicitly selected areas with minimum error, because there is not enough information. "It itself" found RSI/SMA combinations where the price can be restored almost exactly (minimum volatility with non-critical slope or something like that).

 
mytarmailS #:

No.

there's no smoothing and there's no lag at all.

But you can say there is a filtering of trend noise

You can see on the picture

that on the original the price goes up with noise, and on the reconstructed series you can see that all candles are "white" and you can filter by this feature


I think I wrote the same thing, but in different words. At least, I meant it.
 
Maxim Kuznetsov #:

The price is explicitly present in the indicators.

Yes, but you can't reconstruct the price from a 20-mashka, you need enough information.

 
sibirqk #:
I think I wrote the same thing, only in different words. At least I meant it.

I see.

But there's no smoothing without lag, it's more like filtering.

 
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mytarmailS #:

Yes, but you can't reconstruct a price from a 20-year-old car, you need a lot of information.

I don't really want to mess with the formulas for the sake of dialogue,

but to give you an idea: if you take the 20th MA-scheme, you will need 41 indicators to restore 30 points accurately. (only in the tail there will be 20/2 +- 1 inaccuracies).

 
Maxim Kuznetsov #:

I don't really feel like messing around with formulas for the sake of dialogue,

but to give you an idea: if you take the 20th MA-case, you will need 41 Mach numbers to accurately restore 30 points. (only in the tail will be 20/2 +- 1 inaccuracies)

without formulas, purely common sense and practice.....

you can't describe the high-frequency oscillations that it suppressed with a single flywheel, the size of the window won't help, it's irretrievably lost information....