Will the prices of making programs go down rise or stay the same assuming the development of Artificial Intelligence? - page 4

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Thomas Bradley Butler #:

Maybe, now with the advent of NPU, anyone with any skill can produce better code

"Anyone with any skill" - No.

And this is the point. It is not possible to make better code with an AI, than it has been trained on.

Arguably, the wording "better" would need a clear definition here. In the sense of better as in not superior, absolutely not.
 
Dominik Egert #:
"Anyone with any skill" - No.

And this is the point. It is not possible to make better code with an AI, than it has been trained on.

Arguably, the wording "better" would need a clear definition here. In the sense of better as in not superior, absolutely not.

It's just an extension.  A human coder is no match for a NPU and then in the future quantum processors 

 
Thomas Bradley Butler #:

It's just an extension.  A human coder is no match for a NPU and then in the future quantum processors 


Are you talking about "Singularity"??


I would say, that's a stretch... Current state of AI and LLM will not achieve that.

Quantum compute research is also stalling at the moment, and for the foreseeable future.

Quantum computer and AI + LLM is probably comparable to the Intel 4004 chip. Yes everyone was hyped back then as well. But it did not reduce costs of workers jobs like in accounting, HR, or whatever.

It did create new jobs and new industries. It brought a lot of high paying jobs, more than it had replaced.

That's not an argument to this thread.
 
Dominik Egert #:

Are you talking about "Singularity"??


I would say, that's a stretch... Current state of AI and LLM will not achieve that.

Quantum compute research is also stalling at the moment, and for the foreseeable future.

Quantum computer and AI + LLM is probably comparable to the Intel 4004 chip. Yes everyone was hyped back then as well. But it did not reduce costs of workers jobs like in accounting, HR, or whatever.

It did create new jobs and new industries. It brought a lot of high paying jobs, more than it had replaced.

That's not an argument to this thread.

No, I am talking about processing. 

 
Dominik Egert #:
OK, but code is precise, image generation is not.

Ask an AI to draw a human hand, see how many fingers it draws.

The result might be in favor of an actual superhuman coder, but if that would represent the result of producing code, then you will be facing a lot of debug time...

Watch the video I linked in my first post.

In my opinion do you think that AI cannot learn? and once the AI learn they never forget like us human...although it is learning from human, but they will collect the better answer than manual human. Once AI progress they will remember all including your character, in fact the large institutions like big banks and hedge funds using AI to understand everything about the market. Although they are not entirely rely on the AI but they have the better decision making than smaller AI that people created.

 
Dominik Egert #:
"Anyone with any skill" - No.

And this is the point. It is not possible to make better code with an AI, than it has been trained on.

Arguably, the wording "better" would need a clear definition here. In the sense of better as in not superior, absolutely not.

Not superior maybe but AI is learning, and once they absorb, they will never forget. The AI will help programmer in fact non-coder to code average code and understand it faster. Take for example chatgpt it understand almost everything if not all about windows, ask him/it. The day will come AI will be to produce something you just need to add in the requirements and structure how you want it. 

AI definitely superior than human. The unforgettable memory is what make AI greater than human by far, once they learn they never forget 

 
In my view, artificial intelligence will serve as a valuable tool and assistant to accelerate processes, but ultimately, the developer's creativity and ideas will always take precedence.
 
Thomas Bradley Butler #:

Maybe, now with the advent of NPU, anyone with any skill can produce better code

What's an NPU ?

thanks

 
Lorentzos Roussos #:

What's an NPU ?

thanks

neural processing unit

 
Apple has just published this paper:


TLDR: The final proof, AI at current state is just a function, fitted to the answer we expect, based on the training data.

This should once and for all, finally shut up all the AI and LLM hype.

LLMs are at current state an approximation function. That's why in terms of computer science, you can argue, they are a fuzzy function. Not more, and not less.

Yes, a big LLM is a very condensed data store, one you can query with natural language, and as a result you will get natural language. But that's it.

Here a video of the summary:


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