Minimum project price decreased to 20 ?(freelance) - page 2

 

Further decreases in the minimum prices are more likely with the current trajectory the ecosystem is taking.

We may even see free requests for those developers who want to get their first stars.

I don't have the experience you have but try to "link" to customer's more than those who look to hit an easy 20$ job . Send them a thank you gif , put your linktree in a qr code in the gif , put your links in the source code of the deliverable (1) , put your links in the about tab of the deliverable , ask them to add you as a friend over here , add them too . Put social media links on your profile as well .

(1) A good idea for this is to log the action steps you took on top of the code , below your credentials , they won't delete it as it might be useful for the next coder who may work on it

 

Firstly, not simple jobs, all tasks in the forum are 30 usd :) There are people who demand %10 return monthly for 30 usd :) or multiple complicated indicators for 30 usd :) 

In addition, of course quality is not same. How does a person working 5 usd / hour generate high quality algo? It is really ridiculous. If he was qualified enough, he probably would not be in that situation. The salary of engineers or quants is evident. 

The freelancers say OK for 30 usd and do nonserious job for the clients and try to get this money. It is like scamming. These people reduce the quality of forum dramatically, and their percentage is not low in the forum. I do not take seriously these people, but they confuse mind of the customer. Lots of work are not even finished nowadays.

Also, watch out the freelancer who sends free requests, you will probably waste time :)

 

I really agree with all comments in this section and believe they all have some kind of truth in them. But let's be honest and say the truth.

99% of the traders are losers. and even the most useful trading tools in hands of the wrong trader is useless. Not to mention trading ideas proposed by 100% of the freelance clients are useless even in hands of the real traders. The top sellers of Bots on MQL5.com are not profitable in long run. 


My conclusion is: we are here to make money out of a something which is nothing indeed. This implies quality is not to be negotiated and price to be the first negotiable factor in here.

 

Actually, I do not think that serious developers - traders are losers. I met nice customers here who have grasped the concept, statistics, and they have been consistently profitable. It is understood while talking and developing algorithm.

Of course, there is no chance for the others and free workers. They just spend time to copy-paste together. 

 

What you don't understand is. Good clients are missing professional at first glance. 
There is two facts.

1- MQL5 Jobs are low paid and complex because of the subjectivity.
2- There are many newcomers and cannot explain technically.

Professional programmers are whether ignoring those type of jobs and clients because of the budget or even if they apply they sound overpriced to that client because of the lowest limit is 30$

So that client actually loosing a proper consultation. Now , not all programmers can predict the outcome of the requirements. Once they apply and feels they can do it because of lack of experience.

Once they see how overwhelming the requirements are it ends up with arbitration or bad quality delivery.

Then client is in endless loop with those 30$ snacks to find proper coder to fix bugs and or even re make. Reading the code hard as much as writing it and usually they end up spending same budget and more effort.
Increase the lowest amount. Programmers will be more motivated, bad deliveries still will be there but professionals will consult them more productively.

 
Ferhat Mutlu #:
Weird that freelancers have shown 0 support here. Aight then

I agree with you. 

I having been having the same thought, that's what lead me here. 

I believe that modification of EA should cost around $50-$150. Basic EA cost between $100-$200 and an Advanced EA should between $1000-$3000. 

MQL5 should set a standard for clients depending on the type of job they want. That way they won't be choosing the lowest bid for all types of jobs. 

 
Peter Chineyenwa Ezeh #:

I agree with you. 

I having been having the same thought, that's what lead me here. 

I believe that modification of EA should cost around $50-$150. Basic EA cost between $100-$200 and an Advanced EA should between $1000-$3000. 

MQL5 should set a standard for clients depending on the type of job they want. That way they won't be choosing the lowest bid for all types of jobs. 

Prices depends on the time developer need to spend on a project. No sense to make these tiers. 

If a complete EA need 1 hour to be completed, 1 hour need to be payed. If a modification need 10 hours, 10 hours need to be payed, seems straight forward, as for all other jobs in the world.
 
At times, the job at hand is really minimal. In fact this decision could actually increase revenue as those types of jobs could be many.. It could allow coders to get quick solutions to problems... I for one, balance the time it would take me to find a solution online vs the price it would cost me to ask a coder in freelancer. This decision will till that balance.
 
Fabio Cavalloni #: Prices depends on the time developer need to spend on a project. No sense to make these tiers. If a complete EA need 1 hour to be completed, 1 hour need to be payed. If a modification need 10 hours, 10 hours need to be payed, seems straight forward, as for all other jobs in the world.

I disagree that the price is only dependant on the "time". It actually depends more on the programmer's skill and knowledge, which they gained over time that they invested to gain it.

An experienced programmer may take much less time and make use of pre-existing stable code libraries that they developed. That is worth much more than the time they take to produce the final code.

In contrast, a novice code may take much longer, as they lack the skill and knowledge. So, basing the price purely on the time involved is not a good measure to decide on the job's value.

 
Fernando Carreiro #:

I disagree that the price is only dependant on the "time". It actually depends more on the programmer's skill and knowledge, which they gained over time that they invested to gain it.

An experienced programmer may take much less time and make use of pre-existing stable code libraries that they developed. That is worth much more than the time they take to produce the final code.

In contrast, a novice code may take much longer, as they lack the skill and knowledge. So, basing the price purely on the time involved is not a good measure to decide on the job's value.

Following Fernando's reply, I will post the old and well known anecdote:

A shipping company owner once faced a major problem with one of his ships. Despite calling all the skilled technicians he knew, no one could fix it. In desperation, he finally reached out to an old, highly experienced ship mechanic.

The seasoned mechanic arrived, examined the engine for a few minutes, then took out a small hammer. With a gentle tap on a specific bolt, the engine roared back to life, perfectly restored.

Delighted but curious, the shipping owner asked how he’d managed to fix it so easily and requested the cost. The mechanic replied, "That’ll be $10,000."

Astounded, the owner protested, "What? $10,000 for a minute’s work? I need an itemized invoice explaining this."

The mechanic nodded and wrote up the invoice:

  • Tapping with a hammer: $10
  • Knowing where to tap: $9,990