From practice to theory and back to practice - page 6

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khorosh:

If the grail requires editing, then it is not a grail.

I fundamentally disagree. The grail is a bowl, so the bowl was not originally shaped like that, it was made out of metal or something else. So with robots, it may well be that the robot is just the beginning of a shape...
 
Anatolii Zainchkovskii:
I fundamentally disagree. the grail is a bowl, so the bowl was not originally shaped like that, it was made out of metal or something else. i.e. the material was shaped like a bowl. so too with robots, it may well be that the robot is just the beginning of a shape...

There's no need to melt down. Kuy and kuy))

 
Anatolii Zainchkovskii:
I fundamentally disagree. The grail is a bowl, so the bowl was not originally shaped like that, it was made out of metal or something else. So the material was shaped into a bowl. So with robots, it may well be that the robot is just the beginning of a shape...

So, when the form has reached perfection, let's call the robot the grail.

 

A serious considered approach to trading will remove most of your questions about the Grail at once.

Trading is a business. In business, too, it is not uncommon to lose money, but a true businessman is one who accepts it as a given, draws conclusions and goes on to make money.

It is the same in trading. There is always the human factor, and even if your trading strategy is automatic and a robot is trading, the market is still a huge number of people, organisations, market makers.


You buy a brick factory (EA), hire people/staff, set up buying and marketing (enable automatic trading), but after a while, the conveyor breaks down or the operator gets sick, or or or...Human error, chance.
Although on the strategy tester (in your thoughts on historical examples of successful businesses) you seem to be about to become a millionaire. But this is a business.

Therefore, only the psychology of trading can increase your profits, but do not guarantee it 100%.

Have made a financial plan (+10% to depo per day/month), trading strategy (clear signals for entry and exit) - so stick to it. There will be losing trades and days, you can't do without that.
The main thing is that you manage to close the month/year in profit. Then it's successful trading (read - business).

 
khorosh:

So, when the form has reached perfection, let's call the robot the grail.

I agree with you 100%. The fact is that many robots are essentially blanks for future grails, and the creators, having tried the blanks on the market, go straight to the furnace. It's like trying to pour water not into a bowl but into a sheet metal, it needs to be forged, made a depression, as in Perelman's theory, the surface needs to be curved and pulled out....
 

The Grail of trading can be compared to the Philosopher ' s Stone or Elixir of the Philosophers from alchemy, which (according to legend) should allow the transmutation of metals to gold as well as eternal life; this symbolism best suits trading, eternal life as eternal stable yield with constant (or self-adjusting) parameters and transmutation as the generation of yield.

Notably, alchemy began as an applied science or naive chemistry and ended as a spiritual discipline in which the alchemical furnace is transferred into the mind or psyche of the adept/practitioner and the alchemical processes become an alloy of images, impressions, thoughts and other products of mind and contemplation under certain conditions and according to certain rules of working with archetypes, which has been called "inner alchemy", A great work in this direction was done by Gustav Jung, who is usually known as a psychologist, but here he acts as a mystic and researcher of cultural phenomena, and it is interesting to add that "inner alchemy" also evolved in China, based on Chinese traditional philosophy and medicine, modern researchers find some similarities between Western and Eastern alchemy.

The quest for the Grail is a return to paradise, the spiritual centre of man and the universe; a symbol of initiation, a test through trials and an encounter with death in search of the hidden meaning and mystery of life. The quest is usually undertaken by a solar hero unaware of his true nature. The Grail above all implies a search for the mystical centre - Aristotle's 'immovable prime mover' or the oriental tradition's 'unchanging middle'. In Jung's depth psychology, the Grail symbolizes man's eternal quest for inner wholeness, the fullness of existence, the movement from Ego to Self.

In researching the symbolism of the Grail one can find many valuable insights from Ancient Egypt, Chaldea, Gnosticism and even from Celtic mythology, while the Grail itself cannot be reduced to any particular mythology or national/regional specificity, one can argue that the Grail quest is an ancient archetypal subject, Generally many ancient magical theories were based on initiation practices, in the same way the adept seeks the Grail and must pass several tests before he/she can even get close to the Grail, but that is not all,The Grail is a mystery that is revealed only to the most worthy.

Thus it is possible to search for the Grail for decades and then just go to the factory. An interesting story took place in the 14th century, Nicolas Flamel, the famous French alchemist, searched for the Grail Philosopher's Stone during 25 years, and finally found it, after going through hardships and wanderings, it is rumored that his magnum opus "Hieroglyphic Figures" contains much unique information for all searchers in a symbolic encrypted form of course.

As for the mathematical definition of the Grail... One may suggest a definition as "a sufficiently narrow cocoon/bundle of all possible trajectories", defined in the simplest case through μ/σ parameters and the duration of their persistence.

 
Anatolii Zainchkovskii:
The thing is that many robots are essentially blanks for future grails, and their creators, after trying the blanks on the market, go straight to the furnace. It is like trying to pour water not into a bowl but into a metal sheet, you need to forge it, make a depression, as in Perelman's theory, the surface needs to be bent and pulled out....
Here, you see, the water pours down from the sky, but often it comes out as a fountain. And in order to fill the bowl, you have to be able to adjust it accordingly each time. And you can't just go

and turn the Grail over, it will not be filled.

 
BlackTomcat:
Here, you see, the water pours down from the heavens, and often it comes out as a fountain. And in order to fill that cup, one must know how to adjust it each time. And you can't just take

and turn the Grail upside down, it will not be filled.

Well, if you believe that the form is able to fill and keep within its limits of volume (of water), then it is enough to decide, as you prefer, waiting for the rain - then simply put a bowl, or you are more convenient from the fountain, then catch the jets when they fall ...
 

Virtually everyone has a gaal, but some are just starting to bend the sheet, while others are already sanding and polishing.

I remember how hard it was to bend the first sheet. But persistence and patience bends slowly.

If you bend quickly, it gets crooked and often breaks).

 
Uladzimir Izerski:

Virtually everyone has a gaal, but some are just starting to bend the sheet, while others are already sanding and polishing.

I remember how hard it was to bend the first sheet. But persistence and patience bends slowly.

If you bend quickly, it gets crooked and often breaks).

That's a beautiful analogy, but it's essentially true.
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