Market and products (experts) without monitoring. - page 21

 
Реter Konow:

There is no need to find out in advance. You launch 10 robots of the same type on 10 cent accounts and on different pairs. You wait for 3 months. If there is a breakthrough in profitability due to getting into a trend, put it on the Market and immediately bring the statistics from the real account. But before that, remove monitoring of other trading robots. In order to avoid suspicions.

In any case, they will test it, we have to estimate the size of the new safe

 
Реter Konow:

There is no need to find out in advance. You launch 10 robots of the same type on 10 cent accounts and on different pairs. You wait for 3 months. If there is the best robot among them in profitability due to hitting the trend, put it in the Market and immediately bring the statistics from the real account. But before that, remove monitoring of other trading robots. We do not want to raise any suspicions.

You can not talk nonsense here. I'm tired of it. We have already established that the market is becoming more and more dependent on the profitability of our Forex market. This is a topic for SELLERS and BUYERS. You are neither one nor the other.

The principle of monitoring is described. It is tied to the product. Full stop.

 
Fast528:

In any case they will be testing, you have to estimate the size of the new safe

So I was talking about the tester grail, which can be switched on at the time of testing. It won't work in real life, but it may be in all copies of the robot in all accounts.

To get around this, testers need to study the guts of the robot and record similarities with other robots in other accounts. But, no one will do that. Everyone wants to make money...

 
Ivan Pochta:

...

The monitoring principle is described. It is tied to the product. Full stop.

Would you agree to honest monitoring? So that the author has a dollar account, not a cent account, and the value of his product is calculated from the amount of risk he takes himself? You cannot offer products for dollars on the basis of one cent account. But only for cents.

 
Реter Konow:

Would you agree to honest monitoring? So that the author has a dollar account, not a cent account, and the price of his product is calculated on the amount of risk he takes himself? So that you can't offer products for dollars on the basis of a cent account. But only for cents.

Personally, I agree to any monitoring(demo/cents/bucks etc) if I decide to buy an EA. My experience so far is that the quality of brokerage companies has improved, this is my personal opinion, maybe I'm wrong, so the real and demo accounts do not differ, only your psychology is different :) to the account.

 
Реter Konow:

For the author to have a dollar account instead of a cent account

Does the robot understand if it has a cent account or not, it has the size of the funds and that's it, how can it affect the trade?

 

In general, there will be no mandatory monitoring or anything else that requires manual administration. Because this is bad for business. Nor will there be a degradation/decline of the Marketplace. Very soon, many authors will realize that it's much more profitable to work long term, rather than get a quick payoff and get banned for a questionable product, or no ban, but get forgotten by frustrated users of a particular developer.

Write interesting products, back them up with monitoring, grow your loyal customer base, be on trend, and don't get bogged down by a growing number of products ;)

 
Реter Konow:

2. several cent accounts are opened. And observers do not know how or what is being traded on them.

3. You can put the robot up for sale whenever you want. And disappointed buyers are sure to pounce if the new market is advertised to them.

4. The time frame can be increased to H1 and there will be so many trades that it will not sell quickly. Disguise it with words about a wise trend/fleet strategy.

The dust in the eyes from monitoring a real account, against the backdrop of tester grails will work. People will take it.

So much for "real" monitoring.

Quite affordable for a run-of-the-mill scammer.

Just try what you write to do in real life. That is all. Very quickly you will realize for yourself that you have written nonsense. No one will jump on anything. no matter how much you PR. There will be individual buyers, nothing more. And they will quickly realize that deals in their accounts do not coincide with the transactions in the monitoring account and make such "anti-priar" in reviews that you will not be able to find more suckers. And the smartest ones will simply compare deals in the strategy tester and on the monitoring account and will not buy anything at all.

+

 
Vasiliy Kolesov:

Just try what you write in real life. That's all. You will very quickly realise yourself that you have written nonsense. No one will pounce on anything, no matter how much you PR. There will be individual buyers, nothing more. And they will quickly realize that deals in their accounts do not coincide with the transactions in the monitoring account and make such "anti-priar" in reviews that you will not be able to find more suckers. And the smartest ones will simply compare deals in the strategy tester and on the monitoring account and will not buy anything at all.

+

If you do not know what to do with this kind of bullshit, you will get disappointed by the enthusiasm and humility. I wrote a scheme several times yesterday but it got lost in all the nonsense that comes from Peter Konow.

I'll duplicate it:

One way or another the seller loads the robot and it automatically goes into monitoring. In the monitoring settings, the seller selects:

1. broker (there should be several different popular ones: IC Markets, Alpari for example, etc.) and account size. Demo is enough;

2. timeframes and pairs;

3. For each timeframe and pair, the program will download set-files.

If we allow authors to add their own EAs, they will start to manipulate them, up to "left-handed" EAs - we've already passed that stage.


The man is asked not to write nonsense about it, but he continues to flood the market systematically: yesterday it was for semi-automatic machines, today it's for mega-grails on Mashki...

 
Aleksey Rodionov:

And does a robot understand whether it has a cent account or not, whether it has the size of funds and that's it, how can trading be affected here?

If a trader places a robot on a cent account and asks $2,000 for it three months later, what guarantee is there that there are no more cent accounts with similar robots and this specific one is profitable, not because of a brilliant strategy, but simply because it has hit the trend and others have not?

You will say that testing can confirm that.

No, it can't, because we can upload a tester grail into our EA that will prove the real result. If deals don't converge in recent months, we can say that the settings in the real account have been changed a bit.


But most importantly, it will all work right after the introduction of mandatory monitoring. On the wings of inspiration, buyers will fall for this cent monitoring. Then they will understand the scheme and become even more disappointed. And it will hurt the whole of algotrading.