[WARNING CLOSED] UmnickTrader Adaptive EA - page 15

 
sever30: Look at what you have done to Leonid, what a way to drive a man with your adaptive...
A nine year OOS test with catastrophic parameters at 25% modelling quality has put me in a state where the recessive allele is in a homozygous state in which the genotype mutates into a phenotype with paradoxical illusion tendencies.
 

Victor, what is the point of evaluating your work if its negative result is known to everyone?
When there will be a steady profit on your pamphouse, then there will be interest in the Expert Advisor.
In the meantime, everything looks like a happy and optimistic image with no relation to objective reality.
and that almost all traders periodically see on forums and in the tester.
In short, it is not interesting.

 
Pegasmaster:

Victor, what's the point of evaluating your work if everyone knows the negative result?
When there will be a stable profit on your pamm, then there will be interest in the Expert Advisor.
In the meantime, everything looks like a happy and optimistic image with no relation to objective reality.
and that almost all traders periodically see on forums and in the tester.
In short, it is not interesting.


What does PAMM have to do with it? :) I think we are discussing an Expert Advisor.

Those who aren't interested pass by in silence, the rest seem to be interested :)

 
VictorArt:
What does PAMM have to do with it? :) I think we are discussing an Expert Advisor.

Those who aren't interested pass by in silence, the rest seem to be interested :)


From the point of view of banal erudition, your consensus in no way fits into our framework of realists, because not every sane individual who has invaded the tendencies of paradoxical illusions and thereby catastrophically mystifying abstractions can totally ignore the tendencies of paradoxical emotions and interrelations arising in direct interaction between metaphysically agglutinating, utopian pictures from the tester and the truth of mystically paradoxical realities.

 
Yep, time to call it a day, I'm already repeating myself.
 
who is interested in advisers - "robots" http://expert...
 
belochka198423:
who is interested in advisers - "robots" http://expert...

Well, that's a pretty straightforward thing to do. Banned for a month.
 

Mathemat: Лёнь, пора, Виктор правду говорит. Я и так уже мозги почти сломал на твоих лингвистических изысках, а представь, каково другим...


Not a question )))). The story originally was as follows. I asked -

LeoV : Why does he need such a test, with such parameters? It's not for trading.

Basically, that was the main and only question I was interested in. The answer was this

VictorArt : I mean why? OOS is needed to test stability, to roughly estimate how quickly the advisor will lose effectiveness.

If you don't know how to make Expert Advisors with long OOS period, no miracles will happen in real trading :)

If you know how, then there is a chance to earn something in real time.

And further, in short -

LeoV : No need to fall into fanaticism. AOC is good, but there is a reasonable measure to everything. A 9 year test is meaningless, and with such parameters and with a modelling quality of 25%. Again, don't you get it? Why do you need testing for OOS when the Expert Advisor is not applicable in trading with such parameters?
VictorArt : Why so many words? Suffice it to say that you cannot create an EA that passes the OOS test for 9 years.
LeoV : To be honest, I don't need it with parameters like yours. I don't fight windmills, so I don't create such monsters)))
VictorArt : The future is impossible to predict.

This means that the outcome in the real world is uncertain - it depends on a large number of factors.

One of the main ones is reliability: server, communication, quote flow, other software.

If you cannot provide reliability - by the law of fate, profitable trades will not make profit, and unprofitable ones, on the contrary, will increase losses.

LeoV : In my opinion, one of the main things is the Trading Strategy. Everything else - servers, communication, flow and other software - is configurable. If only there was something to configure.....))))

VictorArt : I won't argue, but you are wrong.

I note that "the future cannot be predicted" and hence any Trading Strategy (TS) can lose effectiveness at any time.

At any time.

This is absolutely analogous to the fact that no human being, when leaving home in the morning, knows in advance whether he will return home or to the morgue.

LeoV : Fuck, demagoguery is of course a good science, I understand everything, but not to this extent....))))
VictorArt : You see, Figar0, here the most basic things lead to terribly emotional arguments :)

So trying to explain anything on the forums is a sisyphean task.

So after that, I tried to explain the most elementary things in a terribly unemotional way from the point of view of banal erudition, so that it wasn't a Sisyphean task. And from the point of view of banal erudition, not every human individual is able to react loyally and adequately to all tendencies of potential-real action. But I in turn, adhering to the theory of existential dualism, will say the following, that objectively and fundamentally correct answer to the question, which I voiced at the very beginning of our dialogue, is possible only after the comprehension of the height of trader's essence and the cognition of the meaning of his existence in general, or when the unity of transcendental aperception, provided that he successfully overcomes his paradoxical illusions, thanks to which he is able to come out of his own illusions, is possible.

 
LeoV:


Not a question )))). The story was originally as follows. I asked -

Basically, that was the main and only question I was interested in. The answer was -

And then, in short -

After that I tried to explain the most elementary things in a very unemotional way, from the point of view of commonplace erudition, so that it would not be a Sisyphean task. And from the point of view of banal erudition, not every human individual is able to react loyally and adequately to all tendencies of potential-real action. And I, in my turn, adhering to the theory of existential dualism, will say the following: it is possible to give an objective and radically right answer to the question I voiced at the very beginning of our dialogue, only after we have grasped the height of trader's essence and grasped the meaning of his existence, or, if the unity of transcendental aperception has established the substantiality of psychical substrate, provided we have successfully abandoned our paradoxical illusions, thanks to which

Leonid, "you can't grasp the immensity" - if you don't understand what I mean, move aside in silence.

There is no need to be offended and pester you with questions like: "No, you explain it to me!"

This forum is not a place for bluster.

 
Figar0:

I've even looked at the code, but for the life of me I can't figure out how adaptive it is....

Maybe closer to the "body", who can see what I can't? Some simple analysis of past trades, and calculation of goals and entries from it? Victor, take a chance to return the thread to constructiveness, describe the idea/basic idea of an EA for those who are in the tank again, or share a link to such a description. The code is small, but still someone else's, the idea somehow slips away, and judging by the result it should be there.


There is an overview book on the subject of Adaptation by Pavlov S. Е.

"The work criticizes the main provisions of the modern theory of adaptation and the theoretical positions of the most famous specialists in Russia in this field of physiology: F.Z. Meerson, M.G. Pshennikova, V.N. Platonov, etc. The author writes about the need to use a system approach in studying adaptation processes in the body, believing that the only basis for this today can be the theory of functional systems by P. K. Anokhin. However, the author found it necessary to make certain corrections to the theory of functional systems itself. The book analyses the mechanisms of nonspecific and specific links of adaptation and their interconnection. The basic concepts of the theory of adaptation, which is based on the systemic understanding of adaptation processes, are uncovered.

There is a list of references.

This is a good place to start in order to understand the basic principles of the algorithms used.