Difference between manual and automated trading in MT4 for DCs - page 4

 
Swetten:
In case you are not aware - there is no "manual confirmation required".

The question was whether it is possible to distinguish between a manual order and an automatic order.

The terminal interface is designed so that when an order is placed manually it is necessary to press ok or x, but when it is set automatically this is not required.

This begs the question if this operation with a window is not sent to brokerage companies, especially as there is no way to change this in the settings.

 
Nothing is sent there, they say that it is just a small report on the operation, and if you think about it logically, the advisor does not need such a report, so only in manual trading does it exist
 
Andrei01:

The question is what is this idiotic pressing for?

So that the order can be printed out if necessary.
 
Andrei01:

The question was whether an order may be set manually or automatically.

The terminal's interface is designed so that when an order is placed it is necessary to press ok or x, while automatic placement does not require it.

So the simple question arises as to whether this operation with the window is not sent to the DC, especially as there is no way to change it in the settings.


Banning auto-trading is a shitty feature for shitty brokerage houses

A normal brokerage company, at worst, will be interested in the number of orders per time unit.

 
Andrei01:

It was about whether a manual order can be distinguished from an automatic order.

Theoretically, yes. By magic.

The terminal interface is designed in such a way that if you place an order manually, you must click on ok or on x, and if you set it automatically, you do not need to do this.

Why does the Expert Advisor need to open any additional windows? It does not need it. So, everything is logical.

Therefore, I want to ask whether this operation with the window will be sent to brokerage companies, especially since we cannot change this in the settings.

The simple answer is to ask the developers, instead of presenting your fantasies as reality.

 
Techno:
Nothing is sent there, they say it's just a small report on the operation, and if you think about it logically, the Expert Advisor does not need such a report

You never know. If it is so strictly regulated, someone probably wants people to keep pressing these buttons when trading manually.

Do you really think it's all done so randomly and without any meaning?

 
Techno:
Nothing is sent there, they say that it is just a small report on the operation, and if you think about it logically, the Expert Advisor does not need such a report, that is why it is only for manual trading

The advisor can also find out about the result in their standard ways.

Another thing is that it may not be obvious to the user.

 
Andrei01:

You never know. If it is so strictly regulated, someone probably wants people to keep pressing these buttons when trading manually.

Do you really think it's all done so by accident and without any sense?

Sure, for a reason. So that they can "get their own money in quicker", right?

About "so strictly regulated" -- interface algorithm is an interface algorithm, why should it change?

 
rid:

The developers of MT4 have repeatedly claimed that on the DC server it is allegedly impossible to determine whether an order was opened (placed) manually or by an Expert Advisor.

However, common sense suggests just the opposite. If the dealer can disable advisors on a certain account, this means that the dealer (or the server) knows perfectly well that there was an attempt to open a position automatically.

It is an odd (to put it mildly) position of the developers - to deny the obvious in this situation.

Even if we suppose the improbable, that the "basic" version of the MT4 server does not contain such an option (of determining the auto-order), then it certainly exists in the package of applications and options. Otherwise, the dealer would not be able to prohibit the work of Expert Advisors.

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Magik can easily be set manually as well.

Ifyou can read when you are banned: to prohibit auto-trading, the DC server sets a ban flag, which is read and processed by the client (your terminal). Thus both auto-trading and trading in general may be banned. It has nothing to do with determining the order placement method (manual/advisor). The analogy with the plumbing and water utility is 100% true.
 
RomanS:
So that the warrant can be printed out if necessary.

Why print it out and if necessary?

Is it for those who want to frame this warrant on the wall for posterity? :)