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alexx_v писал(а) >>

How do you calculate that you can lose more than your deposit? Equity is zero in your example...

And the stop out will be by equity and not by balance...


so when equity starts to go to zero, the balance will remain -5778.55

Stop out will come in at equity, but it won't bring the balance back to zero.

 
Loky писал(а) >>


So, when equity reaches zero, your balance will still be -5778.55

The stop out will come by the means, but it will not bring the balance back to 0


Brainwashing!

As soon as you close all trades, the balance value will be equal to equity.

 
PapaYozh писал(а) >>

Your equity "deposit".


For example, your initial deposit was 1000 Rubles.

1.Deposit = Balance = 1000 RUB Equity=0

2. Balance = -5778.55 Equity=7000 RUB

3. balance = -5778.55 Equity=0 rubles

as a result after the equity increase to 0, everything will be closed with stop-out and the balance will be -5778.55

 
PapaYozh писал(а) >>


Brainwash!

Once you have closed all trades, the balance value will equal equity.


not a fact, and we're talking about the situation if nothing is closed
 
Loky >>:


например был начальный депозит 1000 руб.

1.Депозит = Баланс = 1000 руб Эквити=0

2. Баланс = -5778.55 Эквити=7000 руб

3. Баланс = -5778.55 Эквити=0 руб

в результете после похода эквити к 0 закроется все по стоп-ауту а на балансе останется -5778.55 остенешся должен ДЦ


There will be 0 on the balance sheet

If you're not good at maths, take my word for it....

 
Loky >>:


например был начальный депозит 1000 руб.

1.Депозит = Баланс = 1000 руб Эквити=0

2. Баланс = -5778.55 Эквити=7000 руб

3. Баланс = -5778.55 Эквити=0 руб

в результете после похода эквити к 0 закроется все по стоп-ауту а на балансе останется -5778.55 остенешся должен ДЦ

1.Deposit = Balance = 1000 RUR Equity = 1000
 
Loky писал(а) >>


Balance = -5778.55 Equity=0 rubles

As a result, after the equity reaches 0, everything will be closed with stop-out and you will have -5778.55 on your balance

You will be closed even before "Equity=0 roubles".

Stop out - an order to forcibly close a position generated by the server when your funds (account balance + gains on open positions - losses on open positions) fall below 20% of the required margin. In this case, the broker is entitled to close all or part of the positions
 

Equity (funds) = Balance Sheet + Profit/Loss on_open_positions.

Forget about balance, it is only confusing, it is only the RESULTS that matter.

 
Loky писал(а) >>


for example, your initial deposit was 1000 Rubles.

1.Deposit = Balance = 1000 RUB Equity=0

2. Balance = -5778.55 Equity=7000 RUB

3. balance = -5778.55 Equity=0 rubles

As a result, after the equity increase to 0, everything will be closed with stop-out and the balance will be -5778.55


What is not clear? Equity = Balance + Profit. If Equity=0 then Profit = -Balance.
 

I thought that Equity is Equity and if Equity is Balance + Equity, then everything is clear. And if it is not?