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Is this also done one at a time in the terminal, when we use "close overlapped orders" in the order closing window? It seems to be very fast, it feels like the closing is done by one command. This speed cannot be achieved in Expert Advisors.
the script is in the CloseBy code base
And now for the novice traders - not for the thumbs
You made a bet - the price went the wrong way - lock - then you withdraw it when you have the good head.
And people with more than 500 posts - still do not admit that their bets are not downwind
Often we hear it / Understand there's a wave 5 into the sixth and the skewness of the transfusional diamond is looking at the sinus phase in the momentum / /
Who went to the casino to make money? - Most of them went to get some adrenaline.
I took the adrenaline, but we found it. I will not make money on the Forex.
And the puzzles then loca solving the same adrenaline but with squatting.
I'll read a clever book about chaos theory, but not today.
and it's time to watch hockey anyway....
Спасибо за развернутый ответ по теме. К сожалению. из-за плохой сообразительности не всё понял. Вот в варианте, если всегда продолжается тренд получается, что лок остаётся, а убыток по эквити увеличивается в 1,5 раза в чём же эффект таких действий?not much wrong :)...
There is simple maths here.... Let's take the example above: a 100p losing lot with a volume of 10 lots. If the trend continues against us and the last 10 profit position is fixed, then we are left with 10 losing positions, which we lock again. We end up with a 1,100 p lot lock, and a volume of 10 lots. Up to this point we have fixed only profit: 100+200+300+400+500+600+700+800+900+1000=5500 points. As a result, we get drawdown = 10*1100 - 5500 = 4500 points, or increasing losses by 4500/1000 = 4.5 times.
If only 9 lots were used, we would get the increase of loss ((9*1000-(100+200+300+400+500+600+700+800+900))/900=4.5)
If only 8 lots were used, we would get the increase of the loss ((8*900-(100+200+300+400+500+600+700+800))/800=4.5)
If only 7 lots were used, we would get the increase of loss ((7*800-(100+200+300+400+500+600+700))/700=4)
If only 6 lots were used, we would get the increase of loss ((6*700-(100+200+300+400+500+600+600))/600=3.5)
If only 5 lots were used, then we would get the increase of loss ((5*600-(100+200+300+400+500))/500=3)
If only 4 lots were used, then we would get the increase of loss ((4*500-(100+200+300+400))/400=2.5)
If only 3 lots were used, then we would get the increase of loss ((3*400-(100+200+300))/300=2)
If only 2 lots were used, then we would get the increase in loss ((2*300-(100+200))/200=1.5)
If you would have used only 11 lots, we will get the increase in loss ((11*1200-(100+200+300+400+500+600+700+800+900+1000+1100))/1100=6)
Conclusion: dividing the lot into 10 parts is the best...
А теперь для начинающих трейдеров - а не для растопыренных пальцов
Седлал ставку - цена пошла не туда -
и вообще пора хоккей смотреть....
В этой связи уместно задаться вопросом: "Почему столь живуча конструкция под названием лок?"
Лично мне видится несколько плюсов использования лока (естественно каждый плюс для своей целевой группы трейдеров):
1) увеличение среднего времени удержания открытой позиции (важно скальперам в случае разборок с ДЦ);
2) более комфортно смотреть на убыток, питая себя иллюзией, что все еще наладится;
3) возможность скрыть от ивесторов факт просадки, иногда критической (важдо для мошейников).
You forgot about the possibility of entering the market with a large lot (up to 50% of the deposit)
4) Использование "портфеля" стратегий: запуск нескольких советников на одном счете.
А так, если отбросить впаривание инвестору гладкой кривой баланса, то в основном это психологический комфорт.
Ничего не имею против лока, но не использую. Нет смысла. И не использовал никогда. Какие на ФРР к черту локи?
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А вообще, весна рано или поздно кончится, и количество, я бы даже сказал, половодье удивительных постов войдет в норму. Возможно, сделаю перерыв в посещение ресурса. Душевное здоровье дороже.
In the example I gave, I showed the great effectiveness of a positive loc....
Тут, кстати, и выход из лока очевиден - OrderCloseBY() после запланированной выдержки.
In this case the lock is useless...
В этой связи хотелось бы спросить, зачем нужно было пытаться что-то объяснять приводя явно некорректные и несоответствующие ситуации примеры? Защитники и противники локов как будто бы издеваются над окружающими своими обсуждениями, никогда не пытаются рассматривать всю совокупность фактов.Explain what is the incorrectness of the examples? Show it or prove it... Otherwise, it's just idle talk.
Поясните, в чем заключается некорректность примеров? Покажите или докажите... А так пустая болтовня.
Are you joking? Who needs grey and dull proof from an arithmetic book here? Hockey rules.
Saturday... beer... interesting bazaar:)))
Actually - for "normal" trade - the usefulness of the lock (other than psychological) is absolutely nothing... For a lock is the same as above - it's the same as closing and opening the other side at the same place where a locking order was. The effect will be absolutely the same. If it is upwind... Even if it's not upwind... It's still the same:) What went in one direction, and if the lock is closed, the loss is equal to the width of the lock; what happened in another direction - the same loss.
So, in general, there is much more chance for profit when closing lots.
Elementary strategy - open in buy - did not get it right - passed a certain amount of points - closed and opened in sell, hoping for the continuation of the movement - the probability of 1/2 that you'll get profit. In this situation - if you go to the lock - you are always in the red. If you go out of the lock with a profit by "normal" means - it's just impossible.
If we look at the chart, we'll see if the market hasn't changed for some reason.
Locks, on the other hand, can be and are used to create all sorts of "martin-like" TS. "Marting" (wow, a new term was born), can be done not only by increasing lots, but also by increasing the number of orders with a constant lot. Both don't change the point.
So... For example, lot is useful in averaging.
Here is an elementary grail. It's a great lure for beginners...
Open in both directions at once. Take is set, for example, at 10 p. There is no stop. We went up 10 points. Take has triggered. We again open in both directions... We have two positions in sell and one in buy. We have 10 rubles on the balance... We rolled back 10 pips. One sell position has closed... We opened both positions again... Now we have two buy positions. One to sell... and another 10 rubles in the balance... Well, etc. I.e. hoping the price will go back... The balance will grow astronomically fast... As the equity will fall astronomically fast... Theoretically, such a martin-like lock can be returned to zero or even to the profit.
I.e. assuming that price is more likely to hang out in a certain corridor.... let's say 1000 points than it goes up or down 2000 points... With this bouncing you can increase your balance astronomically (if you have enough money on deposit)... and close all at once, when price reaches the middle of where it started...
From the mathematics it is clear that while the price was waving back and forth - has had time to gain profits up and down much more than if the straight line... And when we got back to the middle - we did it all at once - and even managed to stay in the black:)
The Grail, right? What do you think?
But... We need a sizeless deposit... And when we'll be closing... And God only knows when... After the collapse there'll only be equity left... Which, relative to the initial one, has increased by half a percent...
In general, it's not that I'm against locks. But I don't see the practical value of them. If you know where the price will go, or you expect and hope for it. Why do you need a lock? Close and open in the other direction.
Locky was invented by someone for grail-writers :)
Phew... Spit in a common puddle :))) I love Saturday nights...
Граальчик ведь? как вам?
Одно но... Депо надо безразмерное... И когда схлопываться будем... А когда это будет одному богу известно... То после "схлопа" останеться то всего лишь эквити... Которое, относительно первоначального, выросло хорошо если на полпроцентика...
Вобщем - я не то чтобы против локов. Но практического смысла в них не вижу. Если ты знаешь куда пойдет цена, ну или предполагаешь и надеешься на это. То зачем тебе лок? Закрывайся и открывайся в другую сторону...
Reread my post again about the benefits of locks.