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Нет. Это совершенно разные вещи.
Пример: вы заблокировали "Лавину", на обоих сторонах коридора одинаковые суммарные объемы ордеров. Ширина коридора 120 пунктов. Цена вышла за внешнюю границу коридора на 10 пунктов и развернулась (флет) - вы закрыли прибыльные ордера и выставили отложенный ордер того же направления чуть дальше. Цена дошла до противоположной границы, также вышла за нее на 10 пунктов - вы закрываете все ордера этой стороны коридора и не сработавший отложенный ордер. Итого: 0 пунктов убытка, +20 пунктов прибыли.
Теперь как предлагаете вы (закрыть позицию) - закрываем все ордера и берем по 10 пунктов тем же объемом в тех же двух местах, что и в первом случае. Имеем: +20 пунктов прибыли и -120 ПУНКТОВ УБЫТКА! Итого: -100 пунктов убытка.
Вы не видите разницы между +20 пунктов прибыли (в случае замка) и -100 пунктов убытка (в вашем случае - закрытие позиции)?
A clown entering a lock is the same as closing all orders. And opening a lock is the same as opening a new position. To open a lock is to open a new position. So in your example we closed all the orders. We incurred a loss of 120. Opening the close is the same as opening a new position in the net. In the lock, you have a price of 0 pip, open the lock, then you open a new position, because at the moment of opening the lock, you have a liability, as the price of a pip is no longer 0. So, at the moment when you expand the lock, just open one order, i.e. 10 pips away from the channel edge and when the price reaches the next channel edge, we will have +140 -120 and you will get a profit of 20 pips. You are a moron so you do not understand that when you have entered the lock, it means you have just closed the position. By closing the close it means that you opened a position again with a price of a pip different from 0. You are comparing a full close with a new open position? It means you are comparing an example where you closed all orders and opened nothing with an example where you opened a new position. You are the only moron who compares the opening of the lock with a full closing. The opening of the lock is just the opening of a position! So why are you comparing a complete closing to an opening, troll? By opening the lock, you opened a new position, so you should compare it with the opening of a new position. You're comparing the example of a complete close without opening anything with the one where you opened the stock and opened a new position? Are you comparing nothing with an open position???By the way troll you are standing in a lock on equal lots the price of a pip is 0. And it takes margin for half lots. 3 lots buy, 3 lots sell. Price of a pip is 0 and margin is as much as for 3 lots. And closing the lock will not reduce margin, lock closed, and the margin is still as for 3 lots. And if you stand in the lock and onada pending order to put a new one? Right troll...on lots that are in the lot and for which the price of a pip 0, took a margin. So you paid margin for the price of a pip 0. And on the pending order you will need additional margin. You don't have to in MT5. Only Katala may make lots on flips, enter the lock get the price of a pip 0 and pay margin for half of open lots. Margin will eat away at the depo.
Кстати тролль ты стоишь в замке по равным лотам цена пипса 0. А маржу берёт за половину лотов. 3 лота бай - 3 лота селл. Цена пипса 0 а маржа как за целых 3 лота. И закрытие локка маржу не уменьшит, локк закрыл, а маржа всёравно как за 3 лота. .А если стоишь в локе и нада отложеник выставить на новый ордер?? Правильно троль..по лотам которые стоят в локе и по которым цена пипса 0, взяли маржу. То есть ты заплатил маржу за цену пипса 0. И на отложеник нада будет дополнительная маржа. А в МТ5 не нада. Вот такой ГовноОползень выходит.Только Катала может накрутить лоты на переворотах, стать в локк получить цену пипса 0, а маржу платить как за половину открытых лотов. Маржа сьест депо ..слив наступит моментально.
Calculate: EURUSD, leverage 1:500, RC without margin compensation, corridor width 120 pips, initial volume 1 lot. The price opened an upper order and since you had to move away, you placed a second order of the same size, blocking the "Avalanche". The price went down in your absence, opening a second order and coming back up, where we need to run the "Avalanche" to get out of the lock.
MT4, 120 pips wide lock with 1 lot each of both orders. A deposit of 7763 roubles. And an uncommitted minus of 120 x 290 = 34800 roubles. To start the Avalanche, you need to add a new order with the volume of 1 lot. The deposit will become equal to 15526 roubles, which together with the non-fixed minus in the corridor requires 15526 + 34800 = 50326 roubles.
MT5, same situation, same corridor, no lock - you just put a second order using the "Avalanche" algorithm, with the same volume as the first (1 lot). The price opens it, closing the loss of 34800 roubles and then goes back to the upper limit of the corridor, where you have placed an order with the volume of 3 lots (which will open as 2 lots). What happens after it is opened? The previous (lower) order will close with a loss of the same 34800 roubles, and a new order with the volume of 2 lots will open with a deposit of 15526 roubles. Which requires 34800 + 34800 + 15526 = 85126 roubles.
Total: on MT4 you need 50326 roubles to open the last order, on MT5 you need 85126 roubles. And now for you - your words:
Clown to become lock is the same as closing all orders. And to open a lock is the same as opening a new position. When the price reaches the next channel boundary we will have +140 -120 and get a profit of 20 pips. You are a she ep, so you don't understand that you just opened a new position. You are comparing a full close, with a new lock? It means you are comparing an example where you closed all orders and did not open anything with an example of opening a new position. You are the only moron who compares the opening of the lock with a full closing. The opening of the lock is just the opening of a position! So why are you comparing a full close with an open? You're right , troll...the lots that are in the lock and for which the price of a pip is 0, took a margin. So you paid a margin for the price of a pip 0. And on the pending order you will need additional margin. You don't have to in MT5. That's the ShitSlide coming out. Only the Katala can make lots on flips, become in the lock to get a price of a pip
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С удовольствием слежу за веткой.
Are you still nauseous?
Не тошнит еще?
It's been nauseating for a long time, but it's a must for the cause
Давно тошнит,но для дела надо
+100
So just buy vomit at the drugstore, why go to all that trouble?It's pathetic.
honestly
If you do change his mind, prove him wrong, he'll have to do seppuku with his katana.
But we don't want him dead, do we? So I say let him...
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I see why he's so stubborn. It's a basic self-preservation instinct!
G or not G Martin? It's written all over the place.
Or in how many pushes and in which direction the horizontal channel will be broken? It cannot be predicted without a good fundamental.
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А чего здесь обсуждают ?
Г или не Г мартин ? Так про енто писано переписано.
Или за сколько тырков и в какую сторону будет пробит горизонтальный канал ? Так ИМХО без хорошего фундаментала это не предскажешь.
No, not Martin. There's no point in discussing it - it's already been discussed a fifth time...
And you don't want to know what's being discussed. Believe me, you'll be safer off.
глупая стратегия - чем больше открытых ордеров, тем больше кормишь комиссией ДЦ, и тем больше пододвигаешь себя к закрытию по маржинкал, чем так изворачиваться и иметь надежду чтонить вытянуть с "лавины" - ставьте просто 0.01 лот по тренду и ждите когда Ваш целевой уровень пробьет очередная цена и тогда принимайте решение продолжать или нет - если прикинуть суточный ход в пунктах по основным валютным парам, то в принципе не так уж и много если разговор уже пошел о депо в 85126 рублей, думаю просадку на пару месяцев выдержит :)
Well, what can I say. Let's go, guys. What are we all doing here? Sittin' around, dumb... All we have to do is trend and wait! I'm going to go kill myself with resentment for the wasted years... (