[Archive!] Pure mathematics, physics, chemistry, etc.: brain-training problems not related to trade in any way - page 280

 

It could be even simpler:

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300031.

True, with mutual simplicity you still have to check. But the law of education is simpler.

Next:

Find all alpha such that the sequence cos(alpha), cos(2*alpha), cos(4*alpha), cos(8*alpha), ..., cos(2^n*alpha), ... - are all negative. 451

 

I can still do it too:

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I.e. you can also do this:

Find all such alpha that cos(alpha) = z(0)<0 and all z(n+1) = 2*z(n)^2 - 1 are negative. I hope that's clear?

 
Mathemat >>:

Т.е. можно и так:

Найти все такие alpha, что cos(alpha) = z(0)<0, а все z(n+1) = 2*z(n)^2 - 1 отрицательны. Надеюсь, понятно?

The first formulation makes more sense to me. I'm off to find out.

 

A graphical construction would probably help. The parabola y=2*z^2 - 1 and the line y=z.

Obviously, the fixed point of the mapping z -> 2*z^2 - 1 is the intersection of these graphs.

We need a negative one. We solve the equation: 2*z^2 - z - 1 = 0, z<0.

This is z=-1/2, i.e. alpha = 2*Pi/3. This is one point.

 
Mathemat >>:

Тут графическое построение поможет, наверно. Парабола y=2*z^2 - 1 и прямая y=z.

Очевидно, неподвижная точка отображения z -> 2*z^2 - 1 - пересечение этих графиков.

Нам нужна отрицательная. Решаем уравнение: 2*z^2 - z - 1 = 0, z<0. Это z=-1/2, т.е. alpha = 2*Pi/3. Это одна точка.

The rest of the solutions are obtained by "cloning" - multiplying by powers of two.

 
Give me another one. This one is clear.
 

OK, so far, trivial. What about other solutions or proof that there are none? Yes, there are no other solutions, but the proof is non-trivial.

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Mathemat >>:

Так, пока тривиально. А как насчет других решений или доказательства, что их нет?

You saw it on the graph, didn't you?

 
MetaDriver >>:

Ты же на графике видел?

Well, I only pointed out a fixed point. We need more than that. It doesn't have to be that all these negative points are equal. Yeah, the solution proves there are no other points.

Yeah, I saw your congratulations. It's been a while since I've had black caviar...