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Disagree.
Just because a generated series is visually similar to a random increment does not prove that the quotes are random.
And I have this observation - there is a regularity of price movement and at the same time randomness of its movement. The randomness is for small traders to work with them somehow. The price goes up as it falls.The pattern of max. and min. speeds along the track and against the trend. and also in the values of the braking distance (spdometer is the right device)
Tantrik should have put it in Lock Position? :)) - You cannot do it that way - you will still make a loss, unless you minimize it :))
The pattern of max. and min. speeds along the track and against the trend. and also in the stopping distance (the spdometer is the right device)
The frequent pattern is slow rise and fast fall in price.
Не согласен.
То что сгенерированный ряд визуально похож на случайное приращение ещё не доказательство того что котировки случайны.OK, let's say ..............
But agree that increments in M1 and tracking trends by them is idiocy, and there can be no other intelligible explanation for these movements than random distribution.
Then it means that H1, H4 ... has a component of some other, - magic quotes? If you observe trends, rebounds and the possibility of analyzing TA. Or is it the same quotes from M1, which cannot be analyzed (chaos under a microscope)?
We see what we used to see, what we expect to see. We tend to look for patterns, trends, because we need an answer where the price will go.
The best-selling indicators are those that draw a "trend" in the future, and eliotics draw targets ........ doesn't ring a bell?
I'm sure that if DTs were paid for the detection of funny shapes and silhouettes made up of price movement outlines. The whole TA and foundation would immediately be twisted in that direction .............
OK, let's say ..............
But agree that increments in M1 and tracking trends by them is idiocy, and there can be no other intelligible explanation for these movements than random distribution.
Then it means that H1, H4 ... has a component of some other, - magic quotes? If you observe trends, rebounds and the possibility of analyzing TA. Or is it the same quotes from M1, which cannot be analyzed (chaos under a microscope)?
We see what we used to see, what we expect to see. We tend to look for patterns, trends, because we need an answer where the price will go.
The best-selling indicators are those that draw a "trend" in the future, and eliotics draw targets ........ doesn't ring a bell?
I'm sure that if DTs were paid for the detection of funny shapes and silhouettes made up of price movement outlines. The whole TA and foundation, would immediately be twisted in that direction .............
And I have this observation - there is a regularity in the price movement and at the same time the randomness of it. The randomness is for small traders to work with them somehow. The price goes up when falling.
For M1, M5 I agree! But there's no (random distribution) the most difficult thing there is the calculated absence of patterns, in other words, the lack of operational TS based on the search for patterns in the entire quote history.
А у меня такое наблюдение - присутствует закономерность движения цены и в то же время случайность её движения. Случайность - для мелких трейдеров надо как то с ними работать... Цена падая растёт.
По М1, М5 согласен! но там нет (случайного распределения ) самое сложное там а именно рассчитанное отсутствие закономерностей, проще сказать отсутствие работающих ТС основанных на поиске закономерностей на всей истории котировок.
Do we have what we have and at the same time see what we want to see in it?Don't you think you can make a diagnosis from this observation? :)))
No offence.
a frequent pattern of slow rises and rapid falls in price.
on the newsНе согласен.
То что сгенерированный ряд визуально похож на случайное приращение ещё не доказательство того что котировки случайны.This proves another thing. That the classical analysis used to analyse price, to identify its "mood", trend, aspiration, whatever you like, is quite possibly not worth a penny.
Because trend-breaking, reversal patterns don't indicate a price trend at all, they don't indicate anything at all, because they are easily identified even where there is no momentum, no bulls and bears, no reasonable control - on an AMAZING chart!
If a typical "Sperandeo reversal" pattern can be constructed at random, even when the sides are balanced, what reason is there to believe in it as a signal to trade in the real world?
Heads and tails do not fight, there is no confrontation between them as between the beasts of the market, and yet the chart built on the principle of heads and tails creates a no less fascinating picture with all the inherent 'trend' price signals!
In fact, most strategies are based on identifying the mood of the price and playing in the same direction. But what are those detection methods worth, if they indicate a desire where there can't be one?
поиске закономерностей на всей истории котировок.
well, what about one of the postulates of forex:1.the presence of fluctuations in the level of production: uneven growth, different values are not fluctuations.
2.Fluctuations are the replacement of positive dynamics by negative dynamics. Isolated, chaotic fluctuations are not cyclical.
3.Cyclicality - the repetition of fluctuations. Economic dynamics is characterised by a wavelike pattern, the development of oscillations one after the other.
The fluctuations have a recurring unit called a cycle.
Both graphical and fundamental analyses are based on repeatability, as well as ....... :))) what would we be doing if we did not look at graphs to find patterns, i.e. repetitions?
Another thing is that it is absolutely impossible to predict the timeframes for chart repetitions, but we can only find them by "scientific poking" into the trader's trading terminal - either in quotes history, or in timeframes, or .......
So I suggest replacing the charts with childish kaleidoscope patterns - if you see a flower, you guessed the trend reversal, if you don't see it, you just keep turning the kaleidoscope :))))