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Любой дурак может торговать с прибылью 10-20%. Сливают потому что хотят слишком много.
please teach us fools how to earn 10-20%
научите нас дураков пожалуйста зарабатывать 10-20%
It's hard to teach "them" anyway...
except how to assemble switches.
;)))
If serious, the trader must become aware of where he is and what to do.
And as a "kick to the knowledge" one must pay attention to everything that is written in the market.
Let me explain, just in case, not to memorize, not to accept as a dogma, but just to pay attention.
This will be the knee-jerk kicker...
10-20% probably a month.
Well, let's do the math...
20 working days, i.e. 0.5-1% a day.
Depo, say 10000r., i.e. 50-100r. per day.
Tick price of 1 lot on Baxoen (be) now is about 318.5p.
Minilots are different in denominations, there is 1, but more often 0.1 and more rarely 0.01.
Average daily ba range is approximately 100 pips.
For taking 100p we use the third one, i.e. 30 pips which the pair will surely pass.
And calculate the necessary position volume, i.e. the lot:
100p / 30 pip = 3.3p.
Which corresponds to 0.01 lots
And what about the stops!??
Right, good question...
We don't always open where we need to.
We use a stop-loss for, say, half of an average day, 100/2=50 pips.
If it triggers, we will lose 50*3.18=159p.
What the final profit / loss ratio of trades will be depends on other reasons.
There is one more important moment in the reasons of losing, which I call "area (geom.) of money".
But that's for next time...
Yes! And the above example is a very general and simplified one...
It's hard to teach "them" anyway...
except how to assemble switches.
;)))
In all seriousness, the trader must become aware of where he is and what to do.
And as a "kick to the knowledge" one must pay attention to everything that is written in the market.
Let me explain, just in case, not to memorize, not to accept as a dogma, but just to pay attention.
This will be the knee-jerk kicker...
10-20% probably a month.
Well, let's do the math...
20 working days, i.e. 0.5-1% a day.
Depo, say 10000r., i.e. 50-100r. per day.
Tick price of 1 lot on Baxoen (be) now is about 318.5p.
Minilots are different in denominations, there is 1, but more often 0.1 and more rarely 0.01.
Average daily ba range is approximately 100 pips.
For taking 100p we use the third one, i.e. 30 pips which the pair will surely pass.
And calculate the necessary position volume, i.e. the lot:
100p / 30 pip = 3.3p.
Which corresponds to 0.01 lots
And what about the stops!??
Right, good question...
We don't always open where we need to.
We use stop-loss for, say, half of an average day, 100/2=50 pips.
If it triggers, we will lose 50*3.18=159p.
What the final profit / loss ratio of trades will be depends on other reasons.
There is one more important moment in the reasons of losing, which I call "area (geom.) of money".
But that's for next time...
Yes! And the above example is very generalized and simplified...
It's funny, I'm always spinning that shit in my head on the way to work in the morning. Better than any music.
It's funny, I keep playing that shit in my head on the way to work in the morning. Better than any music.
The Russian army is invincible!
The Russian army is invincible !
Stupidity and laziness of man is what is invincible...
Российская армия непобедима !
I am !!!
:)))
The square of money.
Alas, when I came to understand, I couldn't find the term in the literature, and I'm not even looking for it now.
And the bottom line is that there are two factors that significantly affect the yield curve ...
SZZ: I'm already out of habit in the ruble.
I will continue further in the usual quid on euro-bucks pair for the calculation figures.
1. The imbalance between the amount of the deposit and the "desired yield".
The above example even with 10% of profit per month is a well, well, well big result.
Not to mention 20% or more.
And this is where the trader gets confused.
Let's calculate:
Depo 1,000, at 10% profit per month only 100 quid.
Well, this is enough for games, but what about the idea of getting rich?
Here we can "help" with the leverage of 1:500 and... LOC, alas, but not many people know how to prepare it.
That's what plays a cruel trick on inexperienced traders... and opening on the entire depot, and averaging and, alas, LOC.
I hope the result is quite predictable...
2. The imbalance between the deposited amount and the minilot.
This "beast" is not as noticeable as the first one, but it is even scarier.
Depo 1,000, min-lot 0.1, tick price 1 quid, seems to be a usual figure.
And now let's calculate:
Let's say we have moved by 20 pips, well, quite a frequent situation, and "now and immediately".
And we earned 20 quid, i.e. 2% of the deposit. Cool! But not so cool...
Putting a stop-loss on 20 pips is like giving a 20-percent stake to the dealing, which means the levels are going up.
Well... at least 35 pips, that's a loss of 35 quid or 3.5% of the deposit...
These are very sharp drops, especially when you "suddenly" hit 80-100 pips first, the sense of reality is gone.
(And will punish, will definitely punish... ;)))
And if you take the depo, which quite often started, 200-300 quid, the situation is even more exacerbated.
:)
In total, these two factors are already a gang.
Which is ruthlessly robbing our depots...
Почему большинство трейдеров сливает депозиты?
I explain - because they don't buy signals from neurobes
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http://www.rosinvest.com/news/625854/
http://www.newsland.ru/News/Detail/id/441370/
"It's just a scam," Alexander Smirnov, head of the financial and economic department of Moscow City Bank, instantly assessed the FBC analysts' forecast, "First, we don't have that many rubles right now to have such a rate, and either a big issue needs to be given, or oil prices collapse to $40 a barrel.
Please teach us fools how to earn 10-20%.
Man, they want 20% a MONTH, and they want it to be stable, and then they ask why they're losing)))
Площадь денег.
1. Дисбаланс между суммой депо и "желаемой доходностью".
Вышеприведеный пример даже с 10% профита в месяц это ну оооочень большой результат.
Не говоря уже о 20% и более...
А в нём то и порылась собака вводящая трейдера в заблуждение.
Считаем:
Депо 1000, при 10% профита в месяц всего 100 баксов.
Ну для игрушек вполне хватит, а как-же сама идея обогащения? сейчас и сразу?
10% per month is a 3x (slightly more) increase in the depot over a year.
Total:
--1 year $3,000
--2 year $9000
-3 year $27,000
--4 year $81,000
--5 year $243000
-6 year $729,000
--7 year Hooray!
Good toys). Seems simple...but those who plan to make 10% every month as standard...will always get flown in.