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It's not like you have your fingers in the socket all the time. You could burn it out or degrade the stone. >> 1.7 was on an Athlon 64. On Core2Duo 1.55 or more is no use (when the norm is 1.2). It only gets hotter and fails and heat dissipation and power consumption increase non-linearly. And the smaller the manufacturing process, the lower the threshold. 1.45 maximum by Intel.
(shrugging) What I buy, I sell for. If you want, I can give you a link: write them a note saying it's impossible. Or discuss it in the forum there... I know about the threshold (from my university studies).
I'm not suggesting to overclock the stones. I'm talking about performance to work with MT.
Well I wouldn't say that a $90 stone, when overclocked, will give the same performance as a Core i7. You can just overclock it to the same frequency, nothing more. Peter, you know that stones running at the same frequency can differ in performance many times over. Take, say, a Celeron E1600 overclocked to 2.66 and an E8200 at rated frequency.
Which processor do people use, and which one is "better"?
By the way, what manufacturer should I buy the RAM from?
Patriot
Kingston (Kingston HyperX)
Hynix
Corsair
Samsung
NCP
The optimal platforms on the criterion price/quality personally I consider :
- AMDplatform on 780G/SB700 chipset ( ASUS motherboard M3A78-EM, Socket AM2+, DDR2memory , price about $80 )
- AMDplatform on 785G/SB710chipset ( new ASUS motherboard M4A785TD-V EVO orM4A785TD-M EVO, Socket AM3, memory DDR3, price $105-$95 )
Detailed descriptions and technical specifications of the mentioned motherboards http://www.asus.com/
780G chipsetdescription http://www.thg.ru/mainboard/amd_780g/index.html
785G/SB710description chipset http://www.thg.ru/mainboard/amd_785g/index.html
Processor Overview AMD Socket AM3 http://www.thg.ru/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_x4/index.html
Getting AMDquad core CPU from dual core ( with some luck !!! ) http://www.easycom.com.ua/data/cpu/0907141939/?lang=ru
Recommended sites for computer-related topics :
http://www.thg.ru/
http://www.ixbt.com/
http://www.3dnews.ru/
http://www.overclockers.ru/
I wish success and all the best !
It's not a CPU problem, it's a cooling system problem. I have a standard boxed cooler that does its job successfully (even with a rather dusty heatsink).
Cooling, by the way, is also the most important parameter of choice...
(for me at least).
You don't need a steam-powered samovar with a cryogenic cooling system for nothing.
)))
It's about the 70 watt and above proceses.
And those over 100 or more in general...
I'm looking at a light bulb and imagining a system trying to cool it down to the critical 72.5 degrees.
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Too bad the procepc pc's don't go over 100 degrees...
Then at least a sophisticated cooler system would have been possible.
With natural water flow...
))))))))))))))
For trading, again, I chose Intel 35 watt 4xx series.
Which will (hopefully) allow for optimal cooling...
Frequency is not important in this particular case... And you can even lower it by 10%-20-30.
(used computers have no concept of brand, only residual value).
And the new ones don't have it for the most part either...
If only the builder's brand. ;)
I'm talking about components, which have the names of their manufacturers.
And not just one... like the chips from XXX on the opera board that DDD made.
(shrugging his shoulders) What I buy, I sell for. If you want, I'll give you a link: write them a letter saying it's impossible. Or discuss it on their forum... I'm aware of the threshold (from my university studies).
I'm not suggesting to overclock the stones. I'm talking about performance to work with MT.
I'm just cautioning. 1.7 is a bit much. Also, it may be local overheating, although the CPU sensor or cooler is fine. Yes guys are chasing megahertz, but it says less about stable performance there. I overclocked it myself. If a day reboot is ok to play a game. If you trade for a week then crashing at night or once a week is not desirable.
Well I wouldn't say that a $90 stone, when overclocked, will provide the same performance as a Core i7. You can just overclock it to the same frequency, nothing more. Peter, you know that stones running at the same frequency can differ in performance many times over. Take, say, a Celeron E1600 overclocked to 2.66 and an E8200 at rated frequency.
I mean the i7 and Pentium. The computational core is pretty much the same between them. Ergo, cache sizes and RAM organisation can have an effect in our case. Numbers of real and virtual cores have no effect as MT. (In case of single threaded applications multithreading will only slow down - tested)
I don't mean to say that the speed will be the same. But it will be quite comparable. And if you also look at the price/performance of both chipsets and stones...))
I'm just cautioning. 1.7 is a bit much. Plus there can be local overheating, although the CPU sensor or cooler is fine. Yes guys are chasing megahertz, but it says less about stable performance there. I overclocked it myself. If a day reboot is ok to play a game. Then when trading for a week crashing at night or once a week is not desirable.
Especially for you I repeat my post a page earlier:
In short, a netbook is best for trading. The main criterion is not speed, but battery life.
For optimization and other stuff - the uglier the better.
No one is going to trade on a monster. It was about processor-intensive tasks such as optimisation.
The whole raspberry thing is the multi polarity of the world (=
it would be bad without amd it's a fact but on the foward and from experience, intel is intel amd is amd
any iron for the purpose and task imho
Cooling, by the way, is also the most important parameter of choice...
(at least for me).
Steam samovars with cryogenic cooling system is not necessary for free.
)))
It's about those 70 Watt and above.
And those over 100 and more...
http://www.thg.ru/cpu/amd_phenom_ii_athlon_ii/index.html
Quote : "Both the economical Phenom II processors (X3 705e and X4 905e) will no doubt appeal to a certain category of buyers. It hardly makes sense to pick them up for standard desktop PCs, given the higher price associated with lower power consumption. However, if you're building a home theatre PC (HTPC) that needs to be cool and quiet, the Phenom II X4 905e can give a serious performance boost over AMD's previous generation 65W processors."
AMDprocessor performance comparison Phenom™II X4
http://www. amd. com/us/products/desktop/processors/phenom-ii/Pages/phenom-ii-benchmarks-x4. aspx
It has been proven for a long time that AMD does not heat up more than Intel, and sometimes even less! There are just adherents of Intel who have seen Socket A processors last time - Athlon 1000. For them their acquaintance with AMD is over.
By the way, the computing centre and all the computers at IAPO are AMD-based =)) Before that they checked what was faster with cads of all flavors. AMD outplayed Intel by all means. At the same time it is at least 2 times cheaper.